Chiefs Could R.McClain play ROLB? - Page 3

Red Coater · 01-15-2010, 12:54 PM

He is big and has the speed. Or do yall think he just stays as a inside LB? I think he could be a nightmare for QB's 6'4 256lbs and fast. He could be a monster. Also keep in minde we have a good D cord. That could teach him along with Vrabel. Then we could try to sign a guy like Barret Rudd from the Bucs to play IMLB or draft one. Hopefully B.Spikes falls to the 2nd round. What do yall think, bash away.

Priest31kc · 01-15-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

I agree that he is best suited for a 3-4 ILB, which is another reason he is my favorite for #5. McClain and DJ would be a lot of athletic ability in the center of the defense. If they could get a capable NT in FA or round 2 then I would start to feel good about the heart of the defense.

Yep

Jackson-Rd 2/FA-Dorsey

Hali-McClain-DJ-Vrabel?

Flowers-Rd 2b-Page/Morgan-Carr

With Jackson being in his 2nd year, hopefully he makes strides, & it will be Dorsey's 2nd year as a DE, & we saw he made some strides already, & w/ Romeo coming in.....We just need a NT. McClain & DJ in the middle of the D, w/ a pass rusher in Hali on the outside. Flowers is a pro bowl type CB IMO, Carr is a good #2, we're fine @ CB especially if Washington can turn into a good nickel, he's got the skills. With this being a deep safety class, we can get a very good starter in the later 2nd rd. Maybe Page or Morgan who has alot of talent, can take over at the other spot, or maybe we get someone in FA.

TheGuardian · 01-15-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Coater

He is big and has the speed. Or do yall think he just stays as a inside LB? I think he could be a nightmare for QB's 6'4 256lbs and fast. He could be a monster. Also keep in minde we have a good D cord. That could teach him along with Vrabel. Then we could try to sign a guy like Barret Rudd from the Bucs to play IMLB or draft one. Hopefully B.Spikes falls to the 2nd round. What do yall think, bash away.

Then here it comes.

The answer is no.

Why do you guys do this? I don't get some posters.

If a guy is an inside bad ass in college that generally transfers well to the pros because it's mostly an instinctive position like running back.

Pass rushing is somewhat of a "feel" thing because some guys can do it naturally, and others learn how to do it real well. But being "fast" has nothing to do with being a good outside linebacker. Lots of fast guy suck and lots of slow guys make pro bowls. Looking at measurables on a guy like height, weight, speed, and all that jazz doesn't really tell me anything about him or his best position. A good natural pass rusher tends to have good knee bend, long arms, and great hip flexibility. You don't need any of that to be a great inside or mike backer. Knee bend helps though.

Either way McClain is/should be an inside guy. If we need a guy to rush the passer from the outside along with Hali, draft one that did that in college or sign one that did that in the pros. Thanks and have a good night.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-15-2010, 03:59 PM

A LB is at his best when the linemen keep blockers off their ass.

An OLB in a 3-4 has to be able to take on blockers and shed and tackle when he's on run defense.

This is an obvious no.

Titty Meat · 01-15-2010, 04:00 PM

This thread sucks

Red Coater · 01-15-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

This thread sucks

u suck too!!! It was just something to think about get over it. Shit what else is there to talk about?

Red Coater · 01-15-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Then here it comes.

The answer is no.

Why do you guys do this? I don't get some posters.

If a guy is an inside bad ass in college that generally transfers well to the pros because it's mostly an instinctive position like running back.

Pass rushing is somewhat of a "feel" thing because some guys can do it naturally, and others learn how to do it real well. But being "fast" has nothing to do with being a good outside linebacker. Lots of fast guy suck and lots of slow guys make pro bowls. Looking at measurables on a guy like height, weight, speed, and all that jazz doesn't really tell me anything about him or his best position. A good natural pass rusher tends to have good knee bend, long arms, and great hip flexibility. You don't need any of that to be a great inside or mike backer. Knee bend helps though.

Either way McClain is/should be an inside guy. If we need a guy to rush the passer from the outside along with Hali, draft one that did that in college or sign one that did that in the pros. Thanks and have a good night.

What posistion did Derrick Thomas come out as when he enter the draft, Was ILB orOLB or DE?

Chiefnj2 · 01-15-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Coater

What posistion did Derrick Thomas come out as when he enter the draft, Was ILB orOLB or DE?

DT was a LB at Alabama.

McClain is nothing like DT. Built completely different. He's not a guy that is going to have a great first step and explosion. He's not a pass rusher.

RustShack · 01-15-2010, 04:23 PM

I would rather have a small fast sack artist DE playing OLB for us like most other teams that run a 3-4. Is this guy serious here or just ****ing with us?

Mr. Laz · 01-15-2010, 04:52 PM

McClain will probably cover for DJ and make him look much better.

McClain is physical,smart and disciplined .... everything that DJ isn't. This will allow DJ to be a moron and run around and not kill our defense as much.

philfree · 01-15-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

McClain will probably cover for DJ and make him look much better.

McClain is physical,smart and disciplined .... everything that DJ isn't. This will allow DJ to be a moron and run around and not kill our defense as much.

Maybe DJ just needs someone to tell him what he needs to do on every play. McClain could do that.

PhilFree

WildTurkey · 01-15-2010, 05:01 PM

It's not a stupid question... He has the athletic ability and size to play Outside but his skill set and instincts and ability in coverage make him a better fit inside

Mr. Laz · 01-15-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Maybe DJ just needs someone to tell him what he needs to do on every play. McClain could do that.

PhilFree

i would hope that someone has already tried that.

how many coaches and other linebackers has DJ played with ... surely somebody tried that.

maybe DJ's mysterious issue is that he can't read or something so he never learned how to actually learn a playbook.

Mr. Laz · 01-15-2010, 05:05 PM

There is nothing wrong with bringing the idea up ...

i don't agree with the premise but there is nothing wrong with talking about it.

Shox · 01-15-2010, 05:50 PM

I hope we take McClain over Berry. The ILB group only has 2 guys at top, then the talent drops off a cliff. There is much more OL and S talent in the 2nd and 3rd round than at ILB. Many say the 5th pick is to early to take a LB, well #5 is to early to take a S for sure. McClain is a safer pick then Berry. I think Berry will be pretty good, but he will not be the great playermaker everyone thinks in the NFL in my opinion. McClain seems to be a much better character and much better leader to me.

1. McClain
2a. OL
2b. OLB/S
3. RB (we need an insurance policy for Charles)

pickup a WR who can catch the ball in FA and one olineman.

My offseason dream.

Mr. Laz · 01-15-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

I hope we take McClain over Berry. The ILB group only has 2 guys at top, then the talent drops off a cliff. There is much more OL and S talent in the 2nd and 3rd round than at ILB. Many say the 5th pick is to early to take a LB, well #5 is to early to take a S for sure. McClain is a safer pick then Berry. I think Berry will be pretty good, but he will not be the great playermaker everyone thinks in the NFL in my opinion. McClain seems to be a much better character and much better leader to me.

1. McClain
2a. OL
2b. OLB/S
3. RB (we need an insurance policy for Charles)

pickup a WR who can catch the ball in FA and one olineman.

My offseason dream.

Center and guard?

01-15-2010, 12:54 PM
Red Coater Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Irving Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Could R.McClain play ROLB? He is big and has the speed. Or do yall think he just stays as a inside LB? I think he could be a nightmare for QB's 6'4 256lbs and fast. He could be a monster. Also keep in minde we have a good D cord. That could teach him along with Vrabel. Then we could try to sign a guy like Barret Rudd from the Bucs to play IMLB or draft one. Hopefully B.Spikes falls to the 2nd round. What do yall think, bash away.
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	McClain will probably cover for DJ and make him look much better. McClain is physical,smart and disciplined .... everything that DJ isn't. This will allow DJ to be a moron and run around and not kill our defense as much. __________________
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WildTurkey I'm done Chiefs, Go Pack Go Join Date: May 2009 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $10004900	It's not a stupid question... He has the athletic ability and size to play Outside but his skill set and instincts and ability in coverage make him a better fit inside
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	There is nothing wrong with bringing the idea up ... i don't agree with the premise but there is nothing wrong with talking about it. __________________
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01-15-2010, 05:50 PM	#44
Shox Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $10005765	I hope we take McClain over Berry. The ILB group only has 2 guys at top, then the talent drops off a cliff. There is much more OL and S talent in the 2nd and 3rd round than at ILB. Many say the 5th pick is to early to take a LB, well #5 is to early to take a S for sure. McClain is a safer pick then Berry. I think Berry will be pretty good, but he will not be the great playermaker everyone thinks in the NFL in my opinion. McClain seems to be a much better character and much better leader to me. 1. McClain 2a. OL 2b. OLB/S 3. RB (we need an insurance policy for Charles) pickup a WR who can catch the ball in FA and one olineman. My offseason dream.
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