Mike Mayock comments on top 3 QBs. - Page 4

Chiefnj2 · 01-21-2010, 12:38 PM

Out of the 3 top qb's comming into the draft who can you see as the biggest RISK pick Bradford,Mccoy,Clausen?

Mike Mayock, NFL Network
Hey Fred, interesting question. I like Jimmy Clausen, but I see him as the biggest risk. Even though he comes out of a pro-style offense. Bradford is very, very solid. And I think McCoy is a little bit mroe of a developmental play, but easily the best athlete of the three. Clausen, for me, needs to be more consistent in the pocket and needs to make more consistent throws.

So, Mayock thinks Clausen is a bigger risk/bust potential than Bradford and McCoy.

**DeezNutz** · 01-21-2010, 07:53 PM

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And what sets him apart from any other spread QB?

Because he's tall and has a strong arm? I know he's going to get a ton of hype around here cause he plays for Missouri.

Hell I saw someone saying we should draft Briscoe the other day and I still have the bruise on my brain from it.

He was considered a pro-style QB out of HS, so he has some background in it.

And "because he's tall and has a strong arm"? Dude...

**DeezNutz** · 01-21-2010, 07:54 PM

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They did, probably explains why it's taken him what 5 years just to become ok enough to play.

How long did it take Roethlisberger?

KCrockaholic · 01-21-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

And what sets him apart from any other spread QB?

Because he's tall and has a strong arm? I know he's going to get a ton of hype around here cause he plays for Missouri.

Hell I saw someone saying we should draft Briscoe the other day and I still have the bruise on my brain from it.

Alexander>>>>>>>>Briscoe.

Mecca · 01-21-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

He was considered a pro-style QB out of HS, so he has some background in it.

And "because he's tall and has a strong arm"? Dude...

He played in a normal offense in high school, that doesn't really help me at the college level he's doing spread stuff.

All spread QB's have the same questions, he's bigger and has a strong arm and plays for a local school so he's going to get looked at favorably, that's how it rolls.

Basically the entire QB class for next year is a bunch of talented guys who are projects, no one is remotely polished, it's hard for me to get excited about that.

Mecca · 01-21-2010, 07:57 PM

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How long did it take Roethlisberger?

And we get the 1 exception but generally speaking it took him 3 nearly 4 years to become a good QB, they hid him for awhile.

KCrockaholic · 01-21-2010, 08:02 PM

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And we get the 1 exception but generally speaking it took him 3 nearly 4 years to become a good QB, they hid him for awhile.

How about Joe Flacco? Times have changed man. If this was 04' I would agree with you, but spread QB's are adapting to the NFL at an alarming rate.

This is also because the NFL is turning into a spread league also. It usually works pretty well.

**DeezNutz** · 01-21-2010, 08:02 PM

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And we get the 1 exception but generally speaking it took him 3 nearly 4 years to become a good QB, they hid him for awhile.

If this ****ing organization EVER drafts a QB in round 1 again in my lifetime, I'm perfectly fine for the kid sitting the bench for an entire season, and then trying to win the job in year 2.

Like I said, I think Gabbert will transition pretty quickly and efficiently, but if there's growing pains, fine. The upside is too great.

And, yeah, I think using the exception when talking about Gabbert is justifiable because the dude is a freakish prospect.

A couple days ago, Hamas said he'd spend the #5 overall pick this year for the right to have Gabbert next year, and I agree completely.

Kid is going to be special.

Mecca · 01-21-2010, 08:03 PM

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How about Joe Flacco? Times have changed man. If this was 04' I would agree with you, but spread QB's are adapting to the NFL at an alarming rate.

Joe Flacco wasn't from the spread he was just from a little school because he transferred out of Pitt.

I actually think the big schools going to the spread may pump up the draft value of players playing for small schools like Flacco.

KCrockaholic · 01-21-2010, 08:05 PM

Gabbert's arm is already stronger than Cassel's and actually about 1/2 of the starters in the NFL today.

Mecca · 01-21-2010, 08:06 PM

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If this ****ing organization EVER drafts a QB in round 1 again in my lifetime, I'm perfectly fine for the kid sitting the bench for an entire season, and then trying to win the job in year 2.

Like I said, I think Gabbert will transition pretty quickly and efficiently, but if there's growing pains, fine. The upside is too great.

And, yeah, I think using the exception when talking about Gabbert is justifiable because the dude is a freakish prospect.

A couple days ago, Hamas said he'd spend the #5 overall pick this year for the right to have Gabbert next year, and I agree completely.

Kid is going to be special.

Personally I think Mallet and Gabbert are basically the same thing, Jake Locker I would have extreme reservation about drafting.

I don't get as amped about that class as some do, upside is there but no one is polished at all.

KCrockaholic · 01-21-2010, 08:06 PM

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Joe Flacco wasn't from the spread he was just from a little school because he transferred out of Pitt.

I actually think the big schools going to the spread may pump up the draft value of players playing for small schools like Flacco.

Delaware ran the spread outside the 20 yard line. When they got inside the 20 they basically just ran options.

It was definitely a variation of the spread.

**DeezNutz** · 01-21-2010, 08:09 PM

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Personally I think Mallet and Gabbert are basically the same thing, Jake Locker I would have extreme reservation about drafting.

I don't get as amped about that class as some do, upside is there but no one is polished at all.

Gabbert is more athletic, IMO.

As I pro, I think his basement is Flacco and his upside is greater than Roethlisberger.

Mecca · 01-21-2010, 08:09 PM

Ok I don't watch Delaware so that may very well be true.

Although I don't know if I'd use him as an example after these playoffs where he turned into captain checkdown.

Mecca · 01-21-2010, 08:09 PM

I'm just going to say I can't get jazzed about a class when the most polished player is Jacory Harris.

KCrockaholic · 01-21-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ok I don't watch Delaware so that may very well be true.

Although I don't know if I'd use him as an example after these playoffs where he turned into captain checkdown.

But he has adapted very well in the NFL, and you can't forget he was the 1st rookie QB to win 2 playoff games. Sure he can thank his running game and defense for that feat, but he has proven to be a very good QB and probably a top 10 QB in the near future.

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