Taylor Mays 40 Time (4.43) is very wrong - Page 3

bowener · 03-03-2010, 09:42 PM

Posted this in the Berry thread, but that just doesn't seem right.

That manbeast can flat out fly.

Stanley Nickels · 03-04-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Cause the clips below is what we currently have.... I'll let you compare the angle of attack by our esteemed Mr. Brown, to that of Mays....

Watch these, and tell me that a competent speedy safety like Berry or Mays wouldn't make a considerable difference in the defense.

I love those gifs. On safety, we can agree: Glenn Dorsey could take a shit and throw it at a player and have a better chance of tackling the runner than Mike Brown. We need to address safety; if it's #5, it better be Berry. If Mays is available at 2a, take him. But he projects between there, and I think it'll be a bad decision for a team to use a first on him. Top of the second is about where he belongs-- take players based on raw upside (many of these players are just a few lingering questions from being in the first-- see: Flowers, Brandon).

bowener · 03-04-2010, 11:27 AM

I should have placed this in the OP, but I posted the video of Mays running more as a concern that they could **** up that big at the combine.

I am sure that posting a 4.32~ instead of a 4.43 is a big difference to a lot of coaches, so I hope the combine sends around a correction or something. This could potentially cost Mays a lot of money for something that is not his fault.

Chiefnj2 · 03-04-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener

I should have placed this in the OP, but I posted the video of Mays running more as a concern that they could **** up that big at the combine.

I am sure that posting a 4.32~ instead of a 4.43 is a big difference to a lot of coaches, so I hope the combine sends around a correction or something. This could potentially cost Mays a lot of money for something that is not his fault.

There are six times that go into the "official time". Teams have access to all of them, plus their own times. Teams aren't being hoodwinked, nor is Mays being ripped off.

bowener · 03-04-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

There are six times that go into the "official time". Teams have access to all of them, plus their own times. Teams aren't being hoodwinked, nor is Mays being ripped off.

Ok, good. I don't really know the process so thank you for letting me know this. It just seemed strange to me.

Pitt Gorilla · 03-04-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Damn, those are some terrible angles.

Chiefnj2 · 03-04-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

Ok, good. I don't really know the process so thank you for letting me know this. It just seemed strange to me.

1 time is started by hand and ends with electronic timing.
2 are hand times at both the start and finish.

They do that for both runs, thus you get 6 times total. I don't know the formula for the "official" time that is released. I'm told each team treats the 6 times differently - some average all of them, some discard the highest and lowest, etc. Some rely on their own hand times.

keg in kc · 03-04-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Damn, those are some terrible angles.

Watching that video he looks like a really fast Bernard Pollard. Doesn't look like he knows how to do much but headhunt.

**morphius** · 03-04-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Mays plays fast as balls during every USC game I've watched during his years on the team.

Because he needs the speed to make up for his lack of instincts?

DJ's left nut · 03-04-2010, 02:14 PM

Sorry, but Mays just doesn't show any instincts whatsoever back there.

Even at 10 I wouldn't take him. At 20 I'd consider it, but might still pass. Ultimately I think Earl Thomas will make a better pro.

This kid has Thomas Davis written all over him, perhaps even Urlacher. It's certainly not a bad thing and there are certainly ways he can be utilized on the football field, but safety just isn't one of them, IMO.

Chiefnj2 · 03-04-2010, 02:15 PM

What's troubling to me about Mays is that with his uber-super-natural athleticism, 4 years starting in a big time program with excellent coaching, he still has very questionable instincts. You have to be concerned whether he will ever get "it".

**morphius** · 03-04-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Sorry, but Mays just doesn't show any instincts whatsoever back there.

Even at 10 I wouldn't take him. At 20 I'd consider it, but might still pass. Ultimately I think Earl Thomas will make a better pro.

This kid has Thomas Davis written all over him, perhaps even Urlacher. It's certainly not a bad thing and there are certainly ways he can be utilized on the football field, but safety just isn't one of them, IMO.

After watching the video I'd be almost terrified to have him and Wrong Angle Page playing next to each other.

Mecca · 03-04-2010, 03:48 PM

They wouldn't play next to each other, they play the same spot.

Earl Thomas likely isn't a safety at the next level either, Mays is what he is, an overly athletic freak that will most likely be a better pro than he was collegiate player.

Mecca · 03-04-2010, 03:48 PM

They wouldn't play next to each other, they play the same spot.

Earl Thomas likely isn't a safety at the next level either, Mays is what he is, an overly athletic freak that will most likely be a better pro than he was collegiate player.

MOhillbilly · 03-04-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

They wouldn't play next to each other, they play the same spot.

Earl Thomas likely isn't a safety at the next level either, Mays is what he is, an overly athletic freak that will most likely be a better pro than he was collegiate player.

6 years and he is out.

Mecca · 03-04-2010, 04:13 PM

Doubt it, Mays even if he never develops big play ball skills is a long term starter in the league.

That's why he's rated high, yes he's an athletic freak but his floor is pretty high and his ceiling is the sky.

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-692950	They wouldn't play next to each other, they play the same spot. Earl Thomas likely isn't a safety at the next level either, Mays is what he is, an overly athletic freak that will most likely be a better pro than he was collegiate player.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-692950	Doubt it, Mays even if he never develops big play ball skills is a long term starter in the league. That's why he's rated high, yes he's an athletic freak but his floor is pretty high and his ceiling is the sky.
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