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Old 03-05-2010, 08:06 PM  
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Clausen and Tate?

If they are available at our picks, I want to know if you would be happy or unhappy if we ended up with both.
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:53 PM   #16
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What scares the hell out of me is the thought that they'll pass on Clausen and Berry and draft Buluga and then take TeBow in the third round.
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:56 PM   #17
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Buluga would be a better pick than that POS Okung.
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:01 PM   #18
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And when they pass on Berry?
i already expect them to....they're pussies


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Old 03-05-2010, 10:02 PM   #19
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And when they pass on Berry?
J-E-T-S until Pioli's gone?

I remember reading Posnanski's column about how difficult it is for him to root for the Royals. He said the most horrifying realization came when he finally figured out that the Royals simply do not have the same philosophy as him regarding...well anything really.

If we draft a damn tackle, I'll have reached that point with this franchise. I will simply never be happy with anything they do. I'll do what I can, but right now everytime I see us do something it annoys the piss out of me and everytime I see the Jets make a move I applaud it and wish we'd have done the same.

The Jets weren't given any advantages over KC; there's no reason we couldn't be where they are.
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:13 PM   #20
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:39 PM   #21
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i already expect them to....they're pussies


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I agree. I hate to think it, and say it, but these guys are going to pass on Berry, and he will be available. They will take Bulaga and go the safe route. I will just be so pissed off at the direction of this team if they do this. I would probably officially be off the Pioli wagon. Just like with Cassel, I said I would give Pioli 2 years to prove his worth and show me that he knows what hes doing. But I wont be confident at all if they pass on Berry.
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Old 03-06-2010, 12:17 AM   #22
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I have to say, Jimmy Clausen has a lot of potential. He already throws some NFL routes very well, especially dig and sideline routes. His timing is immaculate on these routes. He has adequate arm strength and supreme accuracy. He is very in control of the two-minute drill. I don't have a substantial enough sample size to see how well he reads and audibles, but I have seen a couple of instances of it in the tape I have looked at. Good footwork 98% of the time. Occasionally he has a hitch when he's in a hurry.

However, a couple things he will have to address in the NFL - locking on to his primary receiver. He does this on nearly every play. Moving through his progression much faster. And, he holds on to the ball for a long time. His endzone jump balls worked at the college level, but they are pretty lofty and take a long time to get to the receiver for the pro level.
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:17 AM   #23
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The Jets weren't given any advantages over KC; there's no reason we couldn't be where they are.
Sure they were. We gave them a 4th round draft pick for Herm. They've been Herm-free for three years longer than we have. That's a decided advantage.

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If we draft a damn tackle, I'll have reached that point with this franchise. I will simply never be happy with anything they do. I'll do what I can, but right now everytime I see us do something it annoys the piss out of me and everytime I see the Jets make a move I applaud it and wish we'd have done the same.
And yet, there were the Jets, right after Herm left, taking a tackle AND a center in the first round of the 2006 draft. Now, you'll reach the breaking point if the Chiefs draft a tackle, but then say that you wish we'd do the same as the Jets, who just three seasons ago spent not one, but two first rounders on offensive linemen - linemen who are now counted as some of the best in the business and provide excellent protection and push for the Jets running and passing game.

But you'd hate it if the Chiefs did the same, but want them to do the same.

I'm confused...
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:32 AM   #24
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And then, to top it off, the Jets took a tight end in the first round of 2008. That's right - a tight end in the first round.

And they also took Vernon Gholston.

So, if they Chiefs take a Tackle and Center with their first two picks, say, Okung and Pouncey, this year, and then next year take a tight end with their first rounder, you'd be happy because they'd be then emulating the J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets? Because you yourself said that you wish we'd do the same as them, correct?

I just want to be clear on this.
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:28 AM   #25
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What scares the hell out of me is the thought that they'll pass on Clausen and Berry and draft Buluga and then take TeBow in the third round.
i shuddered just now..
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Old 03-06-2010, 05:26 AM   #26
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What scares the hell out of me is the thought that they'll pass on Clausen and Berry and draft Buluga and then take TeBow in the third round.

I'm terrified that they'll take Buluga. If we HAVE to have a left tackle then it better at least be the best one.

Am I the only one that wouldn't be too bothered with Tebow in the 3rd or later? I think he's worth a flyer, just don't waste a really valuable pick on him.
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Old 03-06-2010, 05:56 AM   #27
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I'm terrified that they'll take Buluga. If we HAVE to have a left tackle then it better at least be the best one.

Am I the only one that wouldn't be too bothered with Tebow in the 3rd or later? I think he's worth a flyer, just don't waste a really valuable pick on him.
In this draft a 3rd round pick is a very valuable pick..
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Old 03-06-2010, 06:06 AM   #28
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In this draft a 3rd round pick is a very valuable pick..
I understand that and I realise it's very difficult to say how good a pick could be without knowing who else was available at the time.

I would be somewhat more comfortable with our QB situation if we had Cassel, Croyle, Tebow on the depth chart. That's one guy who's got another year to show he can be an NFL QB, and two guys who are both huge long shots but who both undoubtedly have something about them that makes you think they have a chance.

If taking Tebow meant passing on a definite team improving 1st year starter, I probably don't think it's worth it however.

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Old 03-06-2010, 06:15 AM   #29
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Sure they were. We gave them a 4th round draft pick for Herm. They've been Herm-free for three years longer than we have. That's a decided advantage.



And yet, there were the Jets, right after Herm left, taking a tackle AND a center in the first round of the 2006 draft. Now, you'll reach the breaking point if the Chiefs draft a tackle, but then say that you wish we'd do the same as the Jets, who just three seasons ago spent not one, but two first rounders on offensive linemen - linemen who are now counted as some of the best in the business and provide excellent protection and push for the Jets running and passing game.

But you'd hate it if the Chiefs did the same, but want them to do the same.

I'm confused...
I'm confused too. Because the corn i shit out last night ended up inside your skull.

Did the Jets draft a LT to replace the other first round LT they had already drafted two years prior? NO.

No. They didn't already have a first round pick at LT. So what they did is actually nothing like what you are advocating. They have zero in common.

And in fact what New York did after drafting their first round LT is then, 3 years later, trade up to #5 to pick a QBOTF.

We now have our second chance to do EXACTLY WHAT THE JETS DID: Draft a QB at #5 after having acquired a LT in a previous draft. And you're crying like a bitch about us wanting to do that.

You don't have the first god damn clue about what teams have done, or should do.


And how's that dumb secondary pick they made doing? What's his name....Revis?

Yeah, they totally blew an opportunity to draft OL there, for a silly playmaker in the secondary. What were they thinking, Sack of Testes?

Holy shit they passed on Joe Staley and Ben Grubbs for a ****ing CB.
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Commentators usually love a 2 deep QB draft and hype the competition endlessly. It isn't happening this year. The "experts" all seem to have Bradford as the #1 guy. Why?
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