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Old 03-07-2010, 06:25 PM  
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Fargas will visit Chiefs

Fargas will visit the Chiefs
Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2010 7:17 PM ET
Running back Justin Fargas, who was cut by the Raiders for supposedly failing a physical but who claims he didn't, could be getting a chance to take another physical soon.

David White of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Fargas will be visiting the Chiefs.

"I was told by [Raiders coach Tom Cable] that they were moving in a different direction," Fargas told White. "They said it was strictly about money. . . . I know some things were put out there, I guess they said I didn't ass [unfortunate typo not narrowly averted] a physical. I'm a little disappointed by the way it happened but I understand it's a business."

He told White that he won't be retiring, and while he says he won't return to the Raiders his agent has been in touch with the 49ers.

And if Fargas is willing to move north, his former college coach could be interested, too.

As to the notion that it was "strictly about money," Fargas was due to earn a base salary of only $755,000 in 2010. That said, there's a chance that he had a roster bonus due.

Per NFLPA records, Fargas was under contract with the Raiders through 2014, with a base salary maxing out at $1.775 million in the final year.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:45 PM   #91
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Chill out, guys. The draft is FAR more important than any of this bullshit, and we have the Executive of the Decade.
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it's frustrating that we seem to be determined to avoid spending any real money on free agency.

in new england they generally always cheaped by in FA and it was successful so Pioli thinks he can do the same thing here. I just don't see it.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:48 PM   #92
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The guys who will have a place on a playoff team:

DE:

Dorsey
Jackson
Magee
Gilberry (as your 5th DE only. Probably shouldn't suit up)

NT:

None. Edwards is too old. We need two NTs at some point

ILB:

We have the backups. We don't have the starters, and we can't trust DJ at this point. We need anywhere from 1-2 ILBs and they must be starting caliber.

OLB: We need two guys. You need at least three pass rushers. We have one.

S: Depends on Morgan. Page is a fringe player. We need a starting FS and SS

CB: We need another CB. Could range from a DB to LCB

We need a return man

LT: We're good here
G: We have one guard on this roster. We need at least two more (and that's not counting Waters' replacement).
C: We need two
RT: We need at least one

Richardson could be our swing tackle.

WR 3
WR 4

Chambers gets you by for two years, max.

We need two QBs. Both a quality starter and a durable backup.

We need a RB 2.


We have at least 20 holes that need to be addressed over the next two years.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:48 PM   #93
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O'Callaghan gave up 9 sacks and 24 pressures in 12 games.

Was there a worse RT in the NFL?
I saw VERY different numbers.
Checked 2 different sources and both said 4 sacks allowed in 2009.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:50 PM   #94
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I think it's pretty clear that you value ILB more than I do.
Not necessarily. I'm just suggesting that I'd rather draft one than sign a 30-year old LB who won't have much left in the tank when it's time to make a run.

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Sure...If it has to be one or the other.
I don't think it does, though.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:52 PM   #95
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The guys who will have a place on a playoff team:

DE:

Dorsey
Jackson
Magee
Gilberry (as your 5th DE only. Probably shouldn't suit up)

NT:

None. Edwards is too old. We need two NTs at some point

ILB:

We have the backups. We don't have the starters, and we can't trust DJ at this point. We need anywhere from 1-2 ILBs and they must be starting caliber.

OLB: We need two guys. You need at least three pass rushers. We have one.

S: Depends on Morgan. Page is a fringe player. We need a starting FS and SS

CB: We need another CB. Could range from a DB to LCB

We need a return man

LT: We're good here
G: We have one guard on this roster. We need at least two more (and that's not counting Waters' replacement).
C: We need two
RT: We need at least one

Richardson could be our swing tackle.

WR 3
WR 4

Chambers gets you by for two years, max.

We need two QBs. Both a quality starter and a durable backup.

We need a RB 2.


We have at least 20 holes that need to be addressed over the next two years.
I don't think the number is that high, but if we have a good draft and add a couple younger FA's...we'd be well on our way.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:52 PM   #96
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The guys who will have a place on a playoff team:

DE:

Dorsey
Jackson
Magee
Gilberry (as your 5th DE only. Probably shouldn't suit up)

NT:

None. Edwards is too old. We need two NTs at some point

ILB:

We have the backups. We don't have the starters, and we can't trust DJ at this point. We need anywhere from 1-2 ILBs and they must be starting caliber.

OLB: We need two guys. You need at least three pass rushers. We have one.

S: Depends on Morgan. Page is a fringe player. We need a starting FS and SS

CB: We need another CB. Could range from a DB to LCB

We need a return man

LT: We're good here
G: We have one guard on this roster. We need at least two more (and that's not counting Waters' replacement).
C: We need two
RT: We need at least one

Richardson could be our swing tackle.

WR 3
WR 4

Chambers gets you by for two years, max.

We need two QBs. Both a quality starter and a durable backup.

We need a RB 2.


We have at least 20 holes that need to be addressed over the next two years.
Which means you HAVE to be active in FA, because Pioli would otherwise have to hit on EVERY PICK for the next three years.

Yeah, I laughed too.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:58 PM   #98
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Which means you HAVE to be active in FA, because Pioli would otherwise have to hit on EVERY PICK for the next three years.

Yeah, I laughed too.
I said at the beginning of FA, I'm targeting:

Atogwe
Ryan Clark
Dunta Robinson
Dwan Edwards
Mike Bell

Even if we were to sign Atogwe, Edwards, and Bell, only one of those three would start, but all would play a significant role.
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Old 03-07-2010, 08:06 PM   #99
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Which means you HAVE to be active in FA, because Pioli would otherwise have to hit on EVERY PICK for the next three years.

Yeah, I laughed too.
Good thing no one's arguing against Free Agency.
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Back off, man.

LeKevin Smith, Justin Fargas and Chris Chambers are huge gets.

Christ, I can't even TYPE that with a straight face.
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LeKevin Smith, Justin Fargas and Chris Chambers are huge gets.

Christ, I can't even TYPE that with a straight face.
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Back off, man.

LeKevin Smith, Justin Fargas and Chris Chambers are huge gets.

Christ, I can't even TYPE that with a straight face.
With a name like LeKevin, you know that surrendor is inevitable.

So, hey, he's a perfect fit.
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