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**chiefforlife** · 03-07-2010, 06:25 PM

Fargas will visit the Chiefs
Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2010 7:17 PM ET
Running back Justin Fargas, who was cut by the Raiders for supposedly failing a physical but who claims he didn't, could be getting a chance to take another physical soon.

David White of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Fargas will be visiting the Chiefs.

"I was told by [Raiders coach Tom Cable] that they were moving in a different direction," Fargas told White. "They said it was strictly about money. . . . I know some things were put out there, I guess they said I didn't ass [unfortunate typo not narrowly averted] a physical. I'm a little disappointed by the way it happened but I understand it's a business."

He told White that he won't be retiring, and while he says he won't return to the Raiders his agent has been in touch with the 49ers.

And if Fargas is willing to move north, his former college coach could be interested, too.

As to the notion that it was "strictly about money," Fargas was due to earn a base salary of only $755,000 in 2010. That said, there's a chance that he had a roster bonus due.

Per NFLPA records, Fargas was under contract with the Raiders through 2014, with a base salary maxing out at $1.775 million in the final year.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-07-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Because they're good football players and thats as simple as I can put it.

I don't know any other way to put this.

Signing skill position players to their last contract is ****ing stupid.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 03-07-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That's still pretty shitty.

No definitive #1 WR, also rans/unproven at TE, one definitive playmaker at RB.

If Dwayne Bowe doesn't turn into a 1200-1400 yard a year guy this year, he probably never will, and as such, can never be considered more than a really good #2 WR.

Absolutely. I'm hoping we can find a bargain in the draft and get a guy that could develop into a 1. I'm not sure Bowe has the heart or the work ethic to do it.

BryanBusby · 03-07-2010, 09:48 PM

Eh Green Bay has had one of the lower payrolls for awhile and have done just fine with little to no FA activity. The current regime needs to do better at drafting and developing talent or get the **** out.

Mecca · 03-07-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't know any other way to put this.

Signing skill position players to their last contract is ****ing stupid.

This team has been doing it for as long as I can remember, so it seems to be a fine process to some because of that.

Titty Meat · 03-07-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Eh Green Bay has had one of the lower payrolls for awhile and have done just fine with little to no FA activity. The current regime needs to do better at drafting and developing talent or get the **** out.

The difference is Green Bay acually drafts good players.

Mecca · 03-07-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Eh Green Bay has had one of the lower payrolls for awhile and have done just fine with little to no FA activity. The current regime needs to do better at drafting and developing talent or get the **** out.

When the Chiefs draft like Green Bay, that'll be fine. And actually when Green Bay had the lowest payroll in the NFL, they went out and paid Charles Woodson.

BryanBusby · 03-07-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

The difference is Green Bay acually drafts good players.

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Originally Posted by Mecca

When the Chiefs draft like Green Bay, that'll be fine. And actually when Green Bay had the lowest payroll in the NFL, they went out and paid Charles Woodson.

Yeah, hence the 2nd sentence that states draft and develop better or get the **** out. As for Charles Woodson, Ted Thompson was blasted for making that signing until Woodson started to actually deliver like expected. There's no ****ing point in making it rain during Free Agency until they can do that right as said FA will just be surrounded with shitty players and look like a bust of a signing.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-07-2010, 09:52 PM

In my dream of dreams, I'm hoping that our next three 1st rounders are

2010: Eric Berry
2011: A.J. Green
2012: Blaine Gabbert

I'm sure that we'll end up with:

2010: Brian Bulaga
2011: Julio Jones
2012: Some piece of **** QB from Fresno State b/c Pat Hill is from "The Tree".

Mecca · 03-07-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Yeah, hence the 2nd sentence that states draft and develop better or get the **** out. As for Charles Woodson, Ted Thompson was blasted for making that signing until Woodson started to actually deliver like expected.

With Woodson they had money to spend and they took a shot, the Chiefs right now have money to spend and they are busy playing with each others assholes.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-07-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Seriously I'd be happier if the Chiefs gave 50 mill to Dansby than signed a bunch of Chambers and Jones'.

Dansby, Rolle are different. I can't fathom why we didn't make a play for some of those guys.

But it's not like Chambers or Jones are a reason for that. We need stopgaps at those two positions, unless there are some studs that you can pick up. I haven't seen any of those studs in this free agency period at WR or RB.

BryanBusby · 03-07-2010, 09:56 PM

Well, this is pretty much what we're going to get until the Chiefs have a team that doesn't make you consider washing down a bottle full of Tyenol with a drano smoothie.

Even then, they won't go out and sign players like Peppers.

E: Dansby would like complete ass being surrounded with players like Corey Mays and Ron Edwards.

RedThat · 03-07-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

This team has been doing it for as long as I can remember, so it seems to be a fine process to some because of that.

I recall on a few occasions it has worked for this team in the past. It all depends, sometimes those type of signings can work in your favor and sometimes they don't. But Id be content with adding a few veteran players if it meant productivity for this team. I wouldn't see anything wrong with that at all.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-07-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

This team has been doing it for as long as I can remember, so it seems to be a fine process to some because of that.

Not really. What this team is used to is paying too much for shitty, 2nd-tier free agents like Kendrell Bell and Shawn Barber. These guys weren't past their prime. They just weren't very good.

That's why stopgaps don't bother me. I'd rather an older veteran that you know will only play for 2-3 seasons until you find someone better than the franchise thinking a guy like Kevin Walter is some kind of a long-term answer.

These are only stopgaps until you can draft someone better. Of course, that's going to depend on the Chiefs to draft better. We'll see if that actually happens.

milkman · 03-07-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The problem is the Chiefs don't seem to realize when you have the lowest payroll in the entire ****ing league you should be a player for the good FA's not the shit barrel guys.

As long as by "good player" you mean good role players.

Because spending big money on big name free agents when you're a team that sucks as badly as the Chiefs is not the way to build a team from the ground up.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-07-2010, 10:00 PM

Who in the god **** thinks Kevin Walter is a long term answer?

03-07-2010, 06:25 PM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Fargas will visit Chiefs Fargas will visit the Chiefs Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2010 7:17 PM ET Running back Justin Fargas, who was cut by the Raiders for supposedly failing a physical but who claims he didn't, could be getting a chance to take another physical soon. David White of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Fargas will be visiting the Chiefs. "I was told by [Raiders coach Tom Cable] that they were moving in a different direction," Fargas told White. "They said it was strictly about money. . . . I know some things were put out there, I guess they said I didn't ass [unfortunate typo not narrowly averted] a physical. I'm a little disappointed by the way it happened but I understand it's a business." He told White that he won't be retiring, and while he says he won't return to the Raiders his agent has been in touch with the 49ers. And if Fargas is willing to move north, his former college coach could be interested, too. As to the notion that it was "strictly about money," Fargas was due to earn a base salary of only $755,000 in 2010. That said, there's a chance that he had a roster bonus due. Per NFLPA records, Fargas was under contract with the Raiders through 2014, with a base salary maxing out at $1.775 million in the final year.
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BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3159900 VARSITY	Eh Green Bay has had one of the lower payrolls for awhile and have done just fine with little to no FA activity. The current regime needs to do better at drafting and developing talent or get the **** out.
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7139572	In my dream of dreams, I'm hoping that our next three 1st rounders are 2010: Eric Berry 2011: A.J. Green 2012: Blaine Gabbert I'm sure that we'll end up with: 2010: Brian Bulaga 2011: Julio Jones 2012: Some piece of **** QB from Fresno State b/c Pat Hill is from "The Tree". __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3159900 VARSITY	Well, this is pretty much what we're going to get until the Chiefs have a team that doesn't make you consider washing down a bottle full of Tyenol with a drano smoothie. Even then, they won't go out and sign players like Peppers. E: Dansby would like complete ass being surrounded with players like Corey Mays and Ron Edwards.
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7139572	Who in the god **** thinks Kevin Walter is a long term answer? __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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