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Old 04-08-2010, 09:30 AM  
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Mayock: Skins Could Take T. Williams

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/07/will...ector-at-no-4/

Williams could be McNabb’s protector at No. 4
Posted: April 7th, 2010 | Mike Mayock

I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about the effect the Donovan McNabb trade will have on the draft, and the more I think about it the more I believe the Redskins will be a factor in the NFC East. They have a veteran quarterback now and they’re going to draft a left tackle with pick No. 4. And keep in mind, they could have a choice between Oklahoma State’s Russell Okung and Oklahoma’s Trent Williams, the two top tackles in the entire draft.

If so, they could go with Williams, even though he is generally regarded as the No. 2 left tackle behind Okung. Williams fits Washington’s scheme better. He’s a little bit more athletic for the Redskins’ zone-blocking scheme. I think Williams makes more sense for the Redskins at pick No. 4.

The other McNabb effect is on the quarterback situation with Jimmy Clausen, whose pro day I will be at on Friday in South Bend. He had a shot at going to the Redskins before the McNabb trade, but not anymore. The medicals and how he is evaluated off the field will go a long way in determining if he is going to be a top-10 pick.
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:46 AM   #2
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that could switch stuff up ... Okung,Clausen and Berry all there when we pick at 5
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:48 AM   #3
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that could switch stuff up ... Okung,Clausen and Berry all there when we pick at 5
If we pick Okung over those 2......
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:20 AM   #4
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Maybe if Okung is available we could get the Bills and Seahawks to bid against each other for him.

Pick up a 3rd or 4th to move down one with Seattle and still take Berry/Clausen.
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:23 AM   #5
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Maybe if Okung is available we could get the Bills and Seahawks to bid against each other for him.

Pick up a 3rd or 4th to move down one with Seattle and still take Berry/Clausen.
hehe ... hopefully
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:26 AM   #6
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I think Pioli is going to take Dan Williams. He believes in Cassel and to be honest the poor guy didn't have a chance last season with that offense until they made JC a starter.(Clausen eliminated) Pioli can't bring himself to take a S at 5.(Bye, Bye Berry) Okung won't last past #4 & the Skins. NT is the biggest need on the roster. So Dan Williams it is.

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Why did Cassel's play get worse after Charles started?
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:00 AM   #8
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Why did Cassel's play get worse after Charles started?
what a myth that is...
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Why did Cassel's play get worse after Charles started?
you never get tired of trying to turn ever thread into a cassel bitchfest, do ya.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:08 AM   #10
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He believes in Cassel and to be honest the poor guy didn't have a chance last season with that offense until they made JC a starter
That's all good until you understand Cassel got worse with JC as a starter.

Pioli, Haley, and Weis all have access to that info.
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Why did Cassel's play get worse after Charles started?
Sorry. Should have read all the responses.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:15 AM   #12
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you never get tired of trying to turn ever thread into a cassel bitchfest, do ya.
No...it's an actual ****ing question.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:38 AM   #13
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what a myth that is...
Yeah, some myth.

The only stat that Cassel improved on is his yards per game. Everything else was worse, and the important statistics were much worse.

First 7 games

56% completion
179 yards per game
10 TD's
5 INT's
77.1 QB rating

Last 8 games

54% completion
208 yards per game
6 TD's
11 INT's
63.7 QB rating


Yep, it's a myth...
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Old 04-08-2010, 01:44 PM   #14
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Yeah, some myth.

The only stat that Cassel improved on is his yards per game. Everything else was worse, and the important statistics were much worse.

First 7 games

56% completion
179 yards per game
10 TD's
5 INT's
77.1 QB rating

Last 8 games

54% completion
208 yards per game
6 TD's
11 INT's
63.7 QB rating


Yep, it's a myth...
You can play the stat game all you want...

I was slightly happier with Cassel over the last part of the season opposed to the beginning of the year...and that probably has everything to do with Charles.

The funny thing is...I could careless about Cassel but the same people who present this case are the same people who were bashing Cassel from the get go and saying stats don't paint a picture when he had those 10 TD's and 5 INT's...

Can't have it both ways pseudo-super fan!
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I'm willing to give Cassel 8 more games (hopefully with Clausen as backup)...

8 more games and I can form an actual opinion on the guy...

He'll have a year of Haley under his belt, access to one of the best playmakers in the NFL...and hopefully a somewhat revamped offensive line and an entire year of Bowe/Chambers...

So no excuses...is he 2008 Matt Cassel or is he a flash in the pan?

8 games.
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