Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+

[dirk digler]

I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+
The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If more than ONE team thought it was serious, I'd side with you.

I wouldn't be shocked if we're the team that red-flagged him

First, more than one team did think it was serious. One team thought he would need micro fracture surgery, but nearly every team thought it was serious. Otherwise, he doesn't make it out of the first round. His maturity issues weren't enough to keep him from getting drafted no later than 25.

It will be interesting to see how his career goes, because I really liked him until I found out about the knee.

And, Moeaki isn't my favorite player. He has tremendous skills, but typically, oft injured players in college don't suddenly become durable in the NFL.

That said, he was one of the best all around talents. If not for his injury history, he goes in the top half of round two. (IMO). So, it is a risk. Taking a risk with a 4th and 5th round pick is different than doing it with a high second round pick.

We will see if he can stay healthy, because if so, the Chiefs drafted a stud. If not, they gambled with a 4th/5th instead of a high second.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No, I'm not, you ****ing POS. Learn to read.

Not only are you a coward, you're a ****ing troll.

I'm a coward because I'd lose to you in a popularity contest on ChiefsPlanet.com?

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Does every team in the league NEED a OLB?

He fell approximately 10 spots. Did he fit the needs of any of those teams?

Do any of those teams even play a 34?

Yeah, basically half the teams drafting after where he was projected play a 3-4 and most of them could use pass rushers, but you already know that.

[Titty Meat]

Who wants to bet Mecca leaves the board when the Chiefs make the playoffs? Notice he was never around last year when the Chiefs won.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

And yet.... he loves the Chiefs's draft. Odd.

McCluster wasn't a reach. The funny part is that you really gripe about Moeaki.... yet.... he was like #48 on Gosselin's top 100. You should be ecstatic that the Chiefs got such 'value'.

McCluster was going to be taken with the next pick. He wasn't a reach at all. And, after what Devon Hester did.... gifted returners don't last past the second round either.

Nearly everyone not on this board loves this draft....odd how so many national writers can be so wrong.... I guess they just don't have your 'vast' knowlege.

Gosselin is not a scout. He doesn't form his 100 list on his opinion, but the research he gathers from each team.

Saying Rick Gosselin likes our draft is like saying any other columnist likes our draft.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Gosselin is not a scout. He doesn't form his 100 list on his opinion, but the research he gathers from each team.

Saying Rick Gosselin likes our draft is like saying any other columnist likes our draft.

Oh, ok.

Damnit!

What a shitty draft we had! Only columnists like our draft...****! If only we hired Mecca/OTWP and Hamas Jenkins to do our drafts for us!

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

And yet.... he loves the Chiefs's draft. Odd.

McCluster wasn't a reach. The funny part is that you really gripe about Moeaki.... yet.... he was like #48 on Gosselin's top 100. You should be ecstatic that the Chiefs got such 'value'.

McCluster was going to be taken with the next pick. He wasn't a reach at all. And, after what Devon Hester did.... gifted returners don't last past the second round either.

Nearly everyone not on this board loves this draft....odd how so many national writers can be so wrong.... I guess they just don't have your 'vast' knowlege.

You know I want to elaborate on this statement you just made.

I had this thought the other day, and said to myself why draft a guy like Arenas in the 2nd round? When a lot of people would say you could have him in the 5th or 6th?

10 years ago I would agree you don't select a returner in the 2nd round because you could easily find those guys in the 5th, 6th or 7th rounds. But I think in todays NFL more teams are emphasizing and focusing on the kick return positon than ever before. With that being said, it forces the teams hands by taking them sooner rather than later because they just don't last to the later rounds anymore.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by billay

Who wants to bet Mecca leaves the board when the Chiefs make the playoffs? Notice he was never around last year when the Chiefs won.

mecca and hamas probably quit the board again...

hopefully it stays permanent this time

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I'm a coward because I'd lose to you in a popularity contest on ChiefsPlanet.com?

Hell, I'll give you an out.

Start a poll asking if I'm one of the more knowledgeable posters on the forum. Or if my takes are respected.

Then you have nothing to do with it, other than leaving when you're proven wrong.

You made the claim, coward. Back it up.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Gosselin is not a scout. He doesn't form his 100 list on his opinion, but the research he gathers from each team.

Saying Rick Gosselin likes our draft is like saying any other columnist likes our draft.

Given that he talks to so many teams, and knows much of what they think of players. His grade of our draft is based on that... not his own scouting.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

But you know exactly what's been missing there: QB. And they've also done a terrible job trying to acquire a legit #1 WR.

Mason is money for a ton of receptions--much appreciated in PPR leagues--but he's not a game changer.

With Boldin and, I believe, an ascending Flacco, Baltimore is going to be a really solid team.

Yes, I do know what's been missing.

But apparently, while they seem to win the draft each year, their QB evaluation has been the only roadblock to the Super Bowl.

Regardless of why they haven't been to the Super Bowl, they haven't been to the Super Bowl.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Hell, I'll give you an out.

Start a poll asking if I'm one of the more knowledgeable posters on the forum. Or if my takes are respected.

Then you have nothing to do with it, other than leaving when you're proven wrong.

You made the claim, coward. Back it up.

You are a dumfuk/Chiefsplanet


Feel better now?

I D 10 T


PhilFree

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by RedThat

You know I want to elaborate on this statement you just made.

I had this thought the other day, and said to myself why draft a guy like Arenas in the 2nd round? When a lot of people would say you could have him in the 5th or 6th?

10 years ago I would agree you don't select a returner in the 2nd round because you could easily find those guys in the 5th, 6th or 7th rounds. But I think in todays NFL more teams are emphasizing and focusing on the kick return positon than ever before. With that being said, it forces the teams hands by taking them sooner rather than later because they just don't last to the later rounds anymore.

I understand where OTW is coming from on this. But, these were special talents with good character. The only other guys left were either guys with question marks or average good character kids.

While these may look like luxury picks... they are guys that are special. Not just bodies to fill the roster and guys that make an impact as soon as they get on the field.

I think the Chiefs played the draft perfectly.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You act as if there aren't 31 other teams trying to get to the SB as well.

Dude, I respect you but this comment is way out of bounds. Out of respect to you, I'm not going to address it.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You really want to use SB appearances as a knock on their drafting?

As Joey Porter (or some Miami Dolphin said last summer) about the Jets: "Hey man, they're the offseason Champs!"

It really doesn't matter how well you supposedly draft if the end result, especially after more than a decade of "winning" drafts, you have nothing to show for it.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll remember that when we don't make the playoffs, much less the SB under Scott Pioli.

Now that's just your ego showing.

No one is suggesting that the Chiefs are a playoff team in 2011, let alone, 2010.

This team has a long, long way to go before they're consistently competing in the playoffs, regardless of whether or not Pioli's the GM or not.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by TEX

No - what's completely unfair is to forget that everyone is entitled to thier own opinion. If it's different from yours, it's not moronic, it's just a difference of opinion.

That goes both ways. The drafturbaters here shout down and insult anyone that dares disagree with them.