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synthesis2 · 09-08-2010, 04:58 PM

I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this and I even put money on the under for the chargers and the over on the chiefs because of this but I just don't see where they are that great of a team, especially with the changes.

Comparisons:

QB Chargers - B/B+ (not elite) Chiefs C (average at best)
RB Chargers - B- Chiefs A (may have best in league with combo)
WR Chargers - C+/B- (with holdout) Chiefs C+/B-
Oline Chargers - B Chiefs - B
TE Chargers - A Chiefs - D/C ( still not sure on 3rd round pick)
DL Chargers - B Chiefs - C/C+
LB Chargers - B Chiefs - B
Sec Chargers - C Chiefs - B+
Spec Chargers - B Chiefs - A
coaching Chargers -C Chiefs - B (with new off and def cord)

I guess we will see Monday but I just don't see it with the Chargers this year, besides QB, they are very pedestrian and we are better in several areas.

Chiefnj2 · 09-09-2010, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Tell me ONE thing that will make a difference between losing by 30 or more points.

Don't give me Weis or Crennel. Coaches don't make NEARLY the difference people think it will make.

Hence, Herm to Haley.

Eric Berry can't shut down Matthews and Gates by himself.

McCluster will be lucky if he breaks 50 yards total.

Cassel sucks ****ing ass.

The "crowd", in the end, doesn't mean jackshit.

So, what does that leave us with?

$10,000 casino cash bet that Matthews rushes for less than 100 yards.

$10,000 casino cash bet that McCluster has over 50 total yards.

Interested?

**Gadzooks** · 09-09-2010, 09:23 AM

Our Punter's better than your Punter.

We won't need him though

L.A. Chieffan · 09-09-2010, 09:25 AM

Ill take that bet on Mathews. But let's make it interesting and go all in.

10k? I lose more than that running for the bus...

Blick · 09-09-2010, 09:26 AM

Yeah, Matthews isn't going for 170...120-130 would be a reasonable guess while still gashing us. San Diego went for only 35 yards more than 170 in BOTH games combined last year.

Dayze · 09-09-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I expect Matthews to fumble twice. I expect pressure on Rivers. I expect our run game to dominate. Then, I expect our asses will be handed to us.

FAX

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-09-2010, 10:35 AM

Holy shitballs, how did I miss this thread?

Phil Rivers is a "B" and Cassel is a "C"?

Jesus tapdancing Christ, kids must be eating paint chips like Skittles up there.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-09-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Holy shitballs, how did I miss this thread?

Phil Rivers is a "B" and Cassel is a "C"?

Jesus tapdancing Christ, kids must be eating paint chips like Skittles up there.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 09-09-2010, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

$10,000 casino cash bet that Matthews rushes for less than 100 yards.

$10,000 casino cash bet that McCluster has over 50 total yards.

Interested?

I'll take the Mathews one for however much you want.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-09-2010, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

Tell me how the chargers are going to shut down our running game. We have Charles, Jones, and McCluster to throw at them. They lost J. Williams who was the corner stone of the Chargers defence. Cassel sucks.... but our running game will give him enough time to atleast hit Bowe who can break tackles and run for YAC with the best of them. On the defense we have one decent corner and one that should be a pro bowler. Then Berry who I am extremely exicted about and would put him 1 on 1 with Gates. If our front 7 can slow down the run. We will keep it close and maybe even pull out a win with the crowds help.

Keep smokin' that crack

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-09-2010, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Go back and look up Dane's prediction for the first Oakland game last year. He said they would run it all over us and it wouldn't be close.

We lost but they didn't run the ball well (67 yards) and it was very close.

I am actually glad he is making this prediction.

That's because they're ****ing dumb.

Any coach that doesn't run the ball repeatedly and with aggression towards the Chiefs defense is stubborn and dumb.

Seriously.

**Buck** · 09-09-2010, 01:56 PM

Here's my honest opinion.

No offense to your team, but the Chargers are clearly better. Especially when it comes to the Chargers offense vs. the Chiefs Defense. If you decide to play heavy pass coverage to stop rivers, we can run all over you. Mathews is no joke. I backed LT that whole time just because I hadn't followed any other RB for 8 years, and I didn't know any better, but watching Mathews play, I realized that he has the strength and speed to regularly run more than 3 yards per carry.

If you try to stack the box, Rivers will shred.

Its a pick your poison deal.

I also think our defense is better than your offense, but its not as pronounced.

Also this has been a fun thread to read.

HC_Chief · 09-09-2010, 02:01 PM

"Why are the Chargers that much better?"

Personnel.

Hootie · 09-09-2010, 02:02 PM

Who is smarter?

Dane?

OR

Vegas?

Is Dane smarter than Vegas?

How does that saying go?

Vegas never loses?

Something like that...?

(Here's a little gambling lesson for you folks)

Spread opens up at KC +5.5...

90% of the money is put on San Diego.

So...what usually happens? If Vegas wants to even out the money (to make sure they...DON'T LOSE)...they'll move the line...such a dramatic % of money...means they'd probably move the line to something like KC +7.5...to try and entice some action on the Chiefs.

What do they do?

THEY LOWER THE LINE TO KC +4.5 TO ENTICE FURTHER ACTION ON SAN DIEGO!!!

So what does that say to you?

Vegas WANTS action, and they want the PEOPLE to put $$$ on San Diego.

Meaning Vegas is taking KC +4.5...and they are SURE of it.

Now...

Is that to say Vegas doesn't get some wrong?

Hell no...they got crushed last year for the first quarter of the season...

but in the long run, Vegas NEVER loses...

and they lose by winning these bets.

You know they ban people from sports books in Vegas who bet line moves like this?

A PROFESSIONAL GAMBLER WILL PUT A HEALTHY BET ON THE CHIEFS SPREAD...for sure. The sharps will put several units on the Chiefs on Monday.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-09-2010, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck

Also this has been a fun thread to read.

I'm sure it's fun for you to read because apparently, more than 90% of Chiefs fans don't realize their teams ****ing sucks ass.

4-12, 2-12, 4-12 mean nothing.

The Chiefs have not made significant personnel changes to their defense from last year, the same defense that was ranked #30th in total yards and 29th in total scoring.

Eric Berry is not superman, nor can he single-handedly cover Gates and Matthews.

Many Chiefs fans are in for a HUGE shock come Monday night.

**Buck** · 09-09-2010, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Who is smarter?

Dane?

OR

Vegas?

Is Dane smarter than Vegas?

How does that saying go?

Vegas never loses?

Something like that...?

(Here's a little gambling lesson for you folks)

Spread opens up at KC +5.5...

90% of the money is put on San Diego.

So...what usually happens? If Vegas wants to even out the money (to make sure they...DON'T LOSE)...they'll move the line...such a dramatic % of money...means they'd probably move the line to something like KC +7.5...to try and entice some action on the Chiefs.

What do they do?

THEY LOWER THE LINE TO KC +4.5 TO ENTICE FURTHER ACTION ON SAN DIEGO!!!

So what does that say to you?

Vegas WANTS action, and they want the PEOPLE to put $$$ on San Diego.

Meaning Vegas is taking KC +4.5...and they are SURE of it.

Now...

Is that to say Vegas doesn't get some wrong?

Hell no...they got crushed last year for the first quarter of the season...

but in the long run, Vegas NEVER loses...

and they lose by winning these bets.

You know they ban people from sports books in Vegas who bet line moves like this?

A PROFESSIONAL GAMBLER WILL PUT A HEALTHY BET ON THE CHIEFS SPREAD...for sure. The sharps will put several units on the Chiefs on Monday.

How do you know 90% of the money was put on the Chargers?

09-08-2010, 04:58 PM
synthesis2 synthesis2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $9255401	Why are the Chargers that much better? I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this and I even put money on the under for the chargers and the over on the chiefs because of this but I just don't see where they are that great of a team, especially with the changes. Comparisons: QB Chargers - B/B+ (not elite) Chiefs C (average at best) RB Chargers - B- Chiefs A (may have best in league with combo) WR Chargers - C+/B- (with holdout) Chiefs C+/B- Oline Chargers - B Chiefs - B TE Chargers - A Chiefs - D/C ( still not sure on 3rd round pick) DL Chargers - B Chiefs - C/C+ LB Chargers - B Chiefs - B Sec Chargers - C Chiefs - B+ Spec Chargers - B Chiefs - A coaching Chargers -C Chiefs - B (with new off and def cord) I guess we will see Monday but I just don't see it with the Chargers this year, besides QB, they are very pedestrian and we are better in several areas.
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09-09-2010, 09:25 AM	#138
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09-09-2010, 09:26 AM	#139
Blick Veteran Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South KC Casino cash: $10004900	Yeah, Matthews isn't going for 170...120-130 would be a reasonable guess while still gashing us. San Diego went for only 35 yards more than 170 in BOTH games combined last year.
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09-09-2010, 10:35 AM	#141
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2061115	Holy shitballs, how did I miss this thread? Phil Rivers is a "B" and Cassel is a "C"? Jesus tapdancing Christ, kids must be eating paint chips like Skittles up there.
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09-09-2010, 01:56 PM	#146
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $6030295	Here's my honest opinion. No offense to your team, but the Chargers are clearly better. Especially when it comes to the Chargers offense vs. the Chiefs Defense. If you decide to play heavy pass coverage to stop rivers, we can run all over you. Mathews is no joke. I backed LT that whole time just because I hadn't followed any other RB for 8 years, and I didn't know any better, but watching Mathews play, I realized that he has the strength and speed to regularly run more than 3 yards per carry. If you try to stack the box, Rivers will shred. Its a pick your poison deal. I also think our defense is better than your offense, but its not as pronounced. Also this has been a fun thread to read.
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09-09-2010, 02:01 PM	#147
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	"Why are the Chargers that much better?" Personnel. __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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09-09-2010, 02:02 PM	#148
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Who is smarter? Dane? OR Vegas? Is Dane smarter than Vegas? How does that saying go? Vegas never loses? Something like that...? (Here's a little gambling lesson for you folks) Spread opens up at KC +5.5... 90% of the money is put on San Diego. So...what usually happens? If Vegas wants to even out the money (to make sure they...DON'T LOSE)...they'll move the line...such a dramatic % of money...means they'd probably move the line to something like KC +7.5...to try and entice some action on the Chiefs. What do they do? THEY LOWER THE LINE TO KC +4.5 TO ENTICE FURTHER ACTION ON SAN DIEGO!!! So what does that say to you? Vegas WANTS action, and they want the PEOPLE to put $$$ on San Diego. Meaning Vegas is taking KC +4.5...and they are SURE of it. Now... Is that to say Vegas doesn't get some wrong? Hell no...they got crushed last year for the first quarter of the season... but in the long run, Vegas NEVER loses... and they lose by winning these bets. You know they ban people from sports books in Vegas who bet line moves like this? A PROFESSIONAL GAMBLER WILL PUT A HEALTHY BET ON THE CHIEFS SPREAD...for sure. The sharps will put several units on the Chiefs on Monday.
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