Chiefs Why are the Chargers that much better? - Page 12

synthesis2 · 09-08-2010, 04:58 PM

I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this and I even put money on the under for the chargers and the over on the chiefs because of this but I just don't see where they are that great of a team, especially with the changes.

Comparisons:

QB Chargers - B/B+ (not elite) Chiefs C (average at best)
RB Chargers - B- Chiefs A (may have best in league with combo)
WR Chargers - C+/B- (with holdout) Chiefs C+/B-
Oline Chargers - B Chiefs - B
TE Chargers - A Chiefs - D/C ( still not sure on 3rd round pick)
DL Chargers - B Chiefs - C/C+
LB Chargers - B Chiefs - B
Sec Chargers - C Chiefs - B+
Spec Chargers - B Chiefs - A
coaching Chargers -C Chiefs - B (with new off and def cord)

I guess we will see Monday but I just don't see it with the Chargers this year, besides QB, they are very pedestrian and we are better in several areas.

Hootie · 09-09-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

I've been to Invesco field when the Crowd was louder than anything I've ever heard, during a week 11 game where 1st place was up for grabs, and the Chargers beat a team that is better than the Chiefs by 29 points.

Please.

Either way...

I like Mathews but he's a rookie...

Rivers and Gates are great...

But they are inexperienced everywhere else and their defense doesn't put one blister of fear into me...

I'm sorry bro...I have a different opinion...

I think it will be a 3 or 4 point game...either way. Whoever gets that one bounce.

And that's what Vegas thinks, too...

so at least I have LAS FREAKING VEGAS on my side...

Hootie · 09-09-2010, 02:24 PM

Here are my QB rankings by the way:

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Rivers
5. Rodgers
6. Romo
7. Roethlisberger
8. McNabb

(has nothing to do with fantasy)

**Buck** · 09-09-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Please.

Either way...

I like Mathews but he's a rookie...

Rivers and Gates are great...

But they are inexperienced everywhere else and their defense doesn't put one blister of fear into me...

I'm sorry bro...I have a different opinion...

I think it will be a 3 or 4 point game...either way. Whoever gets that one bounce.

And that's what Vegas thinks, too...

so at least I have LAS FREAKING VEGAS on my side...

You also have Castle on your side, so, whatever.

Amnorix · 09-09-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Where's that Kaeding gif?

Hey, let him have his moment of glory. After all, the AFC West is all the Chargers have ever won....

oh, they did win the AFC that one year. But best not to mention it -- just thinking about that SB beat down is really depressing for them.

Brock · 09-09-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

you've never been to Arrowhead when the fan base is pumped up...

This is going to be a heavy home field advantage...

yes they have Rivers...that is their X factor...

but they lack experience at WR and OL...

and their defense simply doesn't scare me...

I think San Diego will win the division, sure...

but this is a great set up for the Chiefs...they get one of their toughest division games at home on MNF to start the season...

this will be like the great Arrowhead of the 90s back when DT and Neil Smith were rocking the joint...

That's huge and Vegas knows it.

Either that or the boos will be deafening.

**Buck** · 09-09-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Hey, let him have his moment of glory. After all, the AFC West is all the Chargers have ever won....

oh, they did win the AFC that one year. But best not to mention it -- just thinking about that SB beat down is really depressing for them.

**** off.

I ****ing hate you ****ing Boston pieces of shit. You win a few championships finally after never having won any and you turn into the ****ing Reaper16 of the NFL.

Hootie · 09-09-2010, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck

You also have Castle on your side, so, whatever.

Castle and Castille!

but anyways...

Rivers is the X factor...if he plays amazingly (which I could surely see)...we lose.

If the Chiefs control the clock and Charles/McCluster and Jones open up the play-action game...

I could certainly see the Chiefs being the talk of the town after MNF...

I don't expect a miracle...but I do expect a 7 win team, minimum this year...with not much of a higher ceiling...

The pessimism of the drafturbators is to be expected...they see no improvement and that is laughable to say the least...

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-09-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Castle and Castille!

but anyways...

Rivers is the X factor...if he plays amazingly (which I could surely see)...we lose.

If the Chiefs control the clock and Charles/McCluster and Jones open up the play-action game...

I could certainly see the Chiefs being the talk of the town after MNF...

I don't expect a miracle...but I do expect a 7 win team, minimum this year...with not much of a higher ceiling...

The pessimism of the drafturbators is to be expected...they see no improvement and that is laughable to say the least...

Play action?

Yeah, Cassel throwing three yard outs in play action will make ALL the difference.

You're funny, Dude.

Hootie · 09-09-2010, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck

**** off.

I ****ing hate you ****ing Boston pieces of shit. You win a few championships finally after never having won any and you turn into the ****ing Reaper16 of the NFL.

This we can agree on!

I hate Boston more than I hate New York now and I never thought that would be possible...

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-09-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

The pessimism of the drafturbators is to be expected...they see no improvement and that is laughable to say the least...

Illustrate the improvement on defense for us, then, illustrate the improvement on offense.

Then show us how those improvements will help the Chiefs to overcome the 30 point losses suffered at the hands of the Chargers last year.

Convince me.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-09-2010, 02:30 PM

We're winning this ****ing game. End of discussion.

Hootie · 09-09-2010, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Play action?

Yeah, Cassel throwing three yard outs in play action will make ALL the difference.

You're funny, Dude.

Ok...whatever man.

We'll see on Monday Night.

I just laid out the facts for how ignorant your 20+ bullshit was...

I'll side with Vegas...you can side with your drafturbator buddies who take Bruce Campbell in the 1st round...

Amnorix · 09-09-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

**** off.

I ****ing hate you ****ing Boston pieces of shit. You win a few championships finally after never having won any and you turn into the ****ing Reaper16 of the NFL.

A few? A few? Dude, we cleaned up. I was going broke buying all the Championship hats and T-shirts and stuff.

Hootie · 09-09-2010, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Illustrate the improvement on defense for us, then, illustrate the improvement on offense.

Then show us how those improvements will help the Chiefs to overcome the 30 point losses suffered at the hands of the Chargers last year.

Convince me.

Nah, I don't feel like doing the merry-go-round debate right now...

Vegas is siding with the Chiefs (to at least cover)...meaning it's going to be a good game.

I laid out all of those facts for you...

Now I'm just ready to see some real game action on Monday night and I'm not going to let you morons ruin that for me like you ruin every other Chiefs discussion on this board.

Amnorix · 09-09-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

This we can agree on!

I hate Boston more than I hate New York now and I never thought that would be possible...

Sorry, Chiefs fans are just collateral damage for me taking shots at Buck.

What you hate are teams/cities that win championships other than your own. Oh, and that the Pats owned Peyton's ass for the first half of his career. Don't be bitter. Or be bitter, I don't care. I'll just throw in a tape of us winning the SB, or kicking the Colts and/or Chargers' ass in the playoffs, repeatedly, to comfort myself.

09-08-2010, 04:58 PM
synthesis2 synthesis2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $9255401	Why are the Chargers that much better? I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this and I even put money on the under for the chargers and the over on the chiefs because of this but I just don't see where they are that great of a team, especially with the changes. Comparisons: QB Chargers - B/B+ (not elite) Chiefs C (average at best) RB Chargers - B- Chiefs A (may have best in league with combo) WR Chargers - C+/B- (with holdout) Chiefs C+/B- Oline Chargers - B Chiefs - B TE Chargers - A Chiefs - D/C ( still not sure on 3rd round pick) DL Chargers - B Chiefs - C/C+ LB Chargers - B Chiefs - B Sec Chargers - C Chiefs - B+ Spec Chargers - B Chiefs - A coaching Chargers -C Chiefs - B (with new off and def cord) I guess we will see Monday but I just don't see it with the Chargers this year, besides QB, they are very pedestrian and we are better in several areas.
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