Chiefs Berry is a bust - Page 8

keg in kc · 09-21-2010, 09:45 AM

Two days in a row Petro has beat this drum. He's just burying Eric Berry (Berry-ing him?)

Good grief.

Jerm · 09-21-2010, 11:52 AM

Soooo we have a 2-0 football team for the first time in years which a great opportunity to be 3-0 going into their bye week yet all that moron can do is bury a guy who's played TWO games in his professional career?

JFC.

I'm thinking Soren should stick to pimping Hardees and picking fights with Nick Wright.

blaise · 09-21-2010, 11:53 AM

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pkane · 09-21-2010, 11:54 AM

I am not sure whats going on with Petro. I typically like him, but lately he has been getting on my last nerve. Yesterday he was saying we should have taken Andre Smith or Monroe two drafts ago and I think this he was pimping Okung as the must have draft pick. He never wanted to take Berry that high and said all along that we would be taking Okung.

Well, that didn't happen so it sounds like he is reaching a bit to say "I told you not to take a saftey at 5"

keg in kc · 09-21-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pkane

I am not sure whats going on with Petro. I typically like him, but lately he has been getting on my last nerve. Yesterday he was saying we should have taken Andre Smith or Monroe two drafts ago and I think this he was pimping Okung as the must have draft pick. He never wanted to take Berry that high and said all along that we would be taking Okung.

Well, that didn't happen so it sounds like he is reaching a bit to say "I told you not to take a saftey at 5"

This morning he was saying we should've drafted Joe Staley instead of Bowe, and how that would now give us Staley at right tackle and Albert at left tackle, or vice versa.

I had to grab my own wrist to keep from shooting myself in the head.

bluehawkdoc · 09-21-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pkane

I am not sure whats going on with Petro. I typically like him, but lately he has been getting on my last nerve. Yesterday he was saying we should have taken Andre Smith or Monroe two drafts ago and I think this he was pimping Okung as the must have draft pick. He never wanted to take Berry that high and said all along that we would be taking Okung.

Well, that didn't happen so it sounds like he is reaching a bit to say "I told you not to take a saftey at 5"

He has "Extremely Small Phallus" syndrome better known as ESP. It's not his fault...

**1ChiefsDan** · 09-21-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Pollard blocked a kick that was a big turning point in the game vs. Redskins last Sunday. They love him in Houston.

no shit- I am in Houston this week. Several of my co-workers have come up to and thanked me for the Chiefs getting rid of him.. I was @House of Blues last night and Pollard was doing his show from there. I should have gone in and told him he was an ass for taking out Brady which made MC attractive to the KC brass.
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Messier · 09-21-2010, 11:59 AM

Petro is a baseball guy. He loves stats and numbers. He uses them to judge everything, it's just that football isn't as reliant on numbers as baseball.

Are we judging Berry on basically two plays? I saw him make some really good plays and I saw him overreact to a few. I think he's a special talent that will have a moment when it clicks.

CupidStunt · 09-21-2010, 12:08 PM

If you don't think Berry is a big reason why they're 9th in the league in both rushing YPG and rush YPC, you just aren't paying attention. Or you're an idiot. Maybe both. Whatever.

Saccopoo · 09-21-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt

If you don't think Berry is a big reason why they're 9th in the league in both rushing YPG and rush YPC, you just aren't paying attention. Or you're an idiot. Maybe both. Whatever.

I'd actually attribute the jump in our run defense to having Belcher and Johnson as our starting MLB/ILB versus Mays/Williams last season. Both have been very solid against the run in the first two games.

Also having a guy who can coach/call a 3-4 defense in Crennel helps a ton too.

Berry has played well against the run though.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-21-2010, 12:13 PM

He may or may not be a bust, but I honestly believe that taking a S that high was a mistake. Ok, so if he turns out to be Ed Reed Jr. I will be wrong. But if he turns out to be just a good (not great) safety, then we would've been better off going any number of other directions. It sucks seeing him get burned so badly in the pass game, I hope it is just 'rookie mistakes' like everyone says...It is way to early to say he is a bust IMO but I was not and am not over joyed with the pick (yet!).

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-21-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

are you serious...or...trying to be funny...or...you are stupid

He's ****ing stupid.

This moron was calling for Haley & Weis to be fired last Sunday during the Game Chat.

He's an oxygen thief.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-21-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So how come Jackson got railed on all last year, yet Berry is getting every excuse?

Are you serious?

Jackson was a two down player that statistically ranked last among all defensive ends in the NFL. He can't rush the passer and he was horrible in the run game.

Eric Berry has been phenomenal in run support but his passing play recognition is just a bit slow. He'll often freeze for a half a second or so, trying to figure out what's happening and by then, it's too late.

It's all totally correctable and expected to happen a rookie, especially a rookie that came out as a JUNIOR, starting in the NFL.

HUGE difference between Berry's "struggles" and Jackson's incompetence.

**Shogun** · 09-21-2010, 12:23 PM

He always watched his games in college to correct mistakes, he will do the same as a Chief. He will be fine. He is doing fine as is minus a few things.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-21-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Two days in a row Petro has beat this drum. He's just burying Eric Berry (Berry-ing him?)

Good grief.

Really? That stupid ****stick is REALLY saying that shit? No, no, no; no True Fan there! No, none at all.

**** him. Seriously.

KCrockaholic · 09-21-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pkane

I am not sure whats going on with Petro. I typically like him, but lately he has been getting on my last nerve. Yesterday he was saying we should have taken Andre Smith or Monroe two drafts ago and I think this he was pimping Okung as the must have draft pick. He never wanted to take Berry that high and said all along that we would be taking Okung.

Well, that didn't happen so it sounds like he is reaching a bit to say "I told you not to take a saftey at 5"

It's funny because we obviously don't need O-line help. We've allowed 2 sacks in 2 games, and 1 of them was because Cassel didn't get rid of the ball on time. Therefore the O-line has only been responsible for allowing 1 sack so far. The fact is, Albert is a good LT, and the rest of our O-line is solid. Richardson is a major upgrade over O'Callaghan.

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Jerm Mahomes > God Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $4418996	Soooo we have a 2-0 football team for the first time in years which a great opportunity to be 3-0 going into their bye week yet all that moron can do is bury a guy who's played TWO games in his professional career? JFC. I'm thinking Soren should stick to pimping Hardees and picking fights with Nick Wright.
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09-21-2010, 11:54 AM	#108
pkane Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Casino cash: $9959970	I am not sure whats going on with Petro. I typically like him, but lately he has been getting on my last nerve. Yesterday he was saying we should have taken Andre Smith or Monroe two drafts ago and I think this he was pimping Okung as the must have draft pick. He never wanted to take Berry that high and said all along that we would be taking Okung. Well, that didn't happen so it sounds like he is reaching a bit to say "I told you not to take a saftey at 5"
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09-21-2010, 11:59 AM	#112
Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	Petro is a baseball guy. He loves stats and numbers. He uses them to judge everything, it's just that football isn't as reliant on numbers as baseball. Are we judging Berry on basically two plays? I saw him make some really good plays and I saw him overreact to a few. I think he's a special talent that will have a moment when it clicks.
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09-21-2010, 12:08 PM	#113
CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $-756668	If you don't think Berry is a big reason why they're 9th in the league in both rushing YPG and rush YPC, you just aren't paying attention. Or you're an idiot. Maybe both. Whatever.
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09-21-2010, 12:13 PM	#115
Ming the Merciless Emporer of Mongo Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Milky Way Casino cash: $-642444	He may or may not be a bust, but I honestly believe that taking a S that high was a mistake. Ok, so if he turns out to be Ed Reed Jr. I will be wrong. But if he turns out to be just a good (not great) safety, then we would've been better off going any number of other directions. It sucks seeing him get burned so badly in the pass game, I hope it is just 'rookie mistakes' like everyone says...It is way to early to say he is a bust IMO but I was not and am not over joyed with the pick (yet!).
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