Chiefs Berry is a bust - Page 9

keg in kc · 09-21-2010, 09:45 AM

Two days in a row Petro has beat this drum. He's just burying Eric Berry (Berry-ing him?)

Good grief.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-21-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

Soooo we have a 2-0 football team for the first time in years which a great opportunity to be 3-0 going into their bye week yet all that moron can do is bury a guy who's played TWO games in his professional career?

JFC.

I'm thinking Soren should stick to pimping Hardees and picking fights with Nick Wright.

And eating Fun House Pizza whilst guzzling anti-freeze laced "Pink Sauce".

**** him. Seriously.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-21-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Two days in a row Petro has beat this drum. He's just burying Eric Berry (Berry-ing him?)

Good grief.

Soren Petro is HHH?

keg in kc · 09-21-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Soren Petro is HHH?

Speaking of him, apparently he's got an office job now, so he can bury people officially.

milkman · 09-21-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Soren Petro is HHH?

Hubert H. Humphry?

Saccopoo · 09-21-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

It's funny because we obviously don't need O-line help. We've allowed 2 sacks in 2 games, and 1 of them was because Cassel didn't get rid of the ball on time. Therefore the O-line has only been responsible for allowing 1 sack so far. The fact is, Albert is a good LT, and the rest of our O-line is solid. Richardson is a major upgrade over O'Callaghan.

Weigmann and Lilja are solid. Waters is acceptable. The tackles are not good, and to say that Richardson is a "major upgrade" over anyone is incorrect. He's been borderline bad for the first two games. Albert is not good. I suggest you tape the games and rewatch them and focus on the offensive line. His footwork is terrible and over-extends on nearly every block.

They've been running Jones almost exclusively behind Weigmann and Lilja. Charles and McCluster are getting stuffed on the outside because our tackles can't block for shit. They can't re-route anyone and can't deal with multiple defenders. That's a fact.

Although, Moeaki has been impressive in his blocking. I don't know if it's because Pope may be the worst blocking TE in the history of the NFL, but at least Moeaki appears to be able to seal his guy off and hold his blocks.

aturnis · 09-21-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So how come Jackson got railed on all last year, yet Berry is getting every excuse?

Because the knocks on Tyson Jackson were that he couldn't play at the pro level. He physically wasn't gifted enough. Whereas the knocks on Berry are all mental lapses. Things that CAN be fixed. Physically, he plays the position like a stud. Mentally, he still needs a little work. To be expected making the switch to playing against more complicated NFL offenses.

aturnis · 09-21-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

He may or may not be a bust, but I honestly believe that taking a S that high was a mistake. Ok, so if he turns out to be Ed Reed Jr. I will be wrong. But if he turns out to be just a good (not great) safety, then we would've been better off going any number of other directions. It sucks seeing him get burned so badly in the pass game, I hope it is just 'rookie mistakes' like everyone says...It is way to early to say he is a bust IMO but I was not and am not over joyed with the pick (yet!).

Getting burned is not the same as missing your assignment altogether. Getting burned is when you know your assignment but either you can't make your turn fluidly enough or are too slow to stick with the receiver physically, or a combination of both. That hasn't happened with Berry yet. Missing your assignment is correctable, not being physically gifted enough is not.

Berry didn't get burned.

Jerm · 09-21-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Soren Petro is HHH?

****...Berry to ST and scout team duty now.

Reerun_KC · 09-21-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan

Petro has had a hate for all-things-Chiefs since day one of the Pioli/Haley era. he's an idiot and I can't take him seriously on this stuff. Berry will be fine.

Petro is a Draftabulator?

Chiefnj2 · 09-21-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Weigmann and Lilja are solid. Waters is acceptable. The tackles are not good, and to say that Richardson is a "major upgrade" over anyone is incorrect. He's been borderline bad for the first two games. Albert is not good. I suggest you tape the games and rewatch them and focus on the offensive line. His footwork is terrible and over-extends on nearly every block.

They've been running Jones almost exclusively behind Weigmann and Lilja. Charles and McCluster are getting stuffed on the outside because our tackles can't block for shit. They can't re-route anyone and can't deal with multiple defenders. That's a fact.

Although, Moeaki has been impressive in his blocking. I don't know if it's because Pope may be the worst blocking TE in the history of the NFL, but at least Moeaki appears to be able to seal his guy off and hold his blocks.

You are so far off on your assessment of Albert and Richardson, that you have lost all credibility when giving an opinion on any other position/player. We all understand you wanted Okung. Get over it.

Reerun_KC · 09-21-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Because the knocks on Tyson Jackson were that he couldn't play at the pro level. He physically wasn't gifted enough. Whereas the knocks on Berry are all mental lapses. Things that CAN be fixed. Physically, he plays the position like a stud. Mentally, he still needs a little work. To be expected making the switch to playing against more complicated NFL offenses.

Pass that along to Petro.. He was being a complete tard this am....

keg in kc · 09-21-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

You are so far off on your assessment of Albert and Richardson, that you have lost all credibility

Have to start with credibility to lose credibility.

Saccopoo · 09-21-2010, 02:33 PM

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You are so far off on your assessment of Albert and Richardson, that you have lost all credibility when giving an opinion on any other position/player.

No, I'm not. The drafturbators would rather burn their eyes out with a hot spoon than draft an offensive lineman, so they formulate this falsehood that Richardson, O'Murphy and Albert are actually quality NFL tackles. They aren't. I dare you to objectively watch replay's of the past two games and all four pre-season games and tell me that they have the skills to effectively play the position at even 50% of the top two at their position.

I double dog dare you.

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We all understand you wanted Okung. Get over it.

I was over it the moment we drafted Berry. And I had no problem with the team drafting Berry. We needed a safety. Although, I think we could have picked a quality one later in the draft (Morgan Burnett was the guy I wanted with the Chiefs second or third round pick, and he's now staring for the Packers.). And me wanting Okung in the draft has nothing to do with the actual on-field play of Richardson and Albert.

Just because you, along with the handful of Drafturbators, refuse to accept a LT as a viable first round selection when we've already got one on the team, regardless of his effectiveness at that position, doesn't mean that I'm fixated on a particular player. I'm not. However, I do understand the importance of the LT position and feel that the Chiefs had the chance to address the problems that the team has at that position in the past two drafts.

However, I don't think Pioli has any desire to draft offensive linemen and thinks that they can be coached up to perform at a decent level. So, you and your merry little band of "draft a playmaker" guys can all be happy that that is exactly what the Scott Pioli led Chiefs will do and instead rely on mediocre free agent acquisitions to fill our perceived holes on the offensive line.

Chiefnj2 · 09-21-2010, 02:41 PM

The Chiefs have given up 2 sacks in 2 games. The sack that Cleveland got was 100% on Cassel. 1 sack in 2 games does not place either tackle "at even 50% of the top two at their position." The team is also 5th in the league in rushing (yards per game) 9th in yards per attempt. That's a great stat considering how bad the passing game is.

I've taken your double dog dare, shoved it down your throat and now it's your turn to stick your clit to a frozen light pole.

siberian khatru · 09-21-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Have to start with credibility to lose credibility.

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	The Chiefs have given up 2 sacks in 2 games. The sack that Cleveland got was 100% on Cassel. 1 sack in 2 games does not place either tackle "at even 50% of the top two at their position." The team is also 5th in the league in rushing (yards per game) 9th in yards per attempt. That's a great stat considering how bad the passing game is. I've taken your double dog dare, shoved it down your throat and now it's your turn to stick your clit to a frozen light pole. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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