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T-post Tom · 10:19 PM

How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts
by Patrick Allen
Sep 30th

The Kansas City Chiefs won’t take on the Indianapolis Colts until October 10th but you can bet Todd Haley and his coaching staff are using their “week off” to work.

Here at Arrowhead Addict, we’re doing the same.

The Chiefs are still not getting respect from the national media. Don’t confuse KC’s recent mentions in the national press as respect. They are just mentions. The “experts” have to mention that the Chiefs are 3-0 and they have to mention that it is remarkable but that doesn’t mean they respect them and it certainly doesn’t mean they think the Chiefs stand a snowballs chance in hell of knocking off the Colts on the road.

They might be right. Peyton Manning is one of the best QB’s ever and as some of our astute readers pointed out earlier today, the Colts are nearly unbeatable at home. Since 2005 the Colts are 35 and 6 at home.

Despite their record the Chiefs are still developing. They have a very, very young secondary. The type of secondary Peyton Manning puts in an omelet and eats for breakfast.

Yet given all that, I think the Chiefs are perfectly constructed to beat the Indianapolis Colts.

Ok, maybe not perfectly constructed. It would help if the Chiefs had Joe Montana at QB instead of Matt Cassel but you have to play with the guys you’ve got.

While game planning for the Colts, the Chiefs need to look no farther than the Houston Texans.

Houston is the only team to beat the Colts this year and they exposed in the first game weaknesses that Indi’s last two opponents have failed to take advantage of. Whether the Texans stumbled upon their victory by planning or luck, it worked and the Chiefs would be fools not to look pretty hard at the Texans Week 1 box score.

I’m no fool so I’ve done just that. The way the Texans beat the Colts was very simple.

They ran it down their freaking throats.

For years the Texans have been getting into shootouts with Peyton Manning and for years Manning has beat them. Not this year.

The Texans beat the mighty Indianapolis Colts with a measly 98 yards passing.

Matt Shaub, normally a very good QB capable of putting up huge numbers, attempted only 17 passes to Manning’s 57.

No the Texans ran on the Colts. The pounded the ball with Arian Foster, who racked up 231 yards. In the end the Texans gashed Indi’s pitiful run defense for 257 yards and 3 rushing touchdowns.

On the defensive side of the ball, the Texans weren’t delusional enough to believe they could shut down Manning. Nobody can shut down Manning.

Peyton completed a ridiculous 40 of 57 passes for 433 yards and 3 touchdowns.

More than a few times the Texans let Manning march down into their territory before tightening up their D. They avoided letting Manning get the big play, giving him the underneath stuff. They let him get his numbers.

They got the victory.

The Chiefs have a team constructed to implement a similar game plan. They have a quick and athletic secondary that knows how to tackle. They should be able to keep the Colts receivers in front of them. When the Colts get into Chiefs territory, Flowers, Carr, Berry and Lewis should be able to tighten up enough to hold the Colts to some FG’s.

When the Chiefs have the ball they have to take advantage of Indi’s 29th ranked run defense. The Colts are giving up an average of 141.3 yards per game while the Chiefs are averaging 160.7 yards rushing. This won’t be a repeat of the 2007 Wild Card Playoffs. Bob Sanders isn’t coming back. The Colts aren’t going to suddenly learn how to stop the run. If the Chiefs can gash the Colts on the ground they should be able to score without Matt Cassel needing to throw for 400 yards.

The Chiefs will have to be opportunistic. They won’t be able to turn the ball over and they had better continue to avoid penalties.

If they can do these things I think the Chiefs have a legitimate shot at shocking the world.

A couple of special teams touchdowns wouldn’t hurt either.

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/09/3...eat-the-colts/

It'd be a lot easier if we could have Bernie "Flashdance" Pollard for just one play. [Which would make Curtis Painter our starting QB next year.

]

Hootie · 10-01-2010, 12:35 AM

and Boss...

I was just starting to gain respect for you and now you think KC is going to go into Indy and win?

Wow...

I just...wow...can't fathom that level of homerism.

That's KnowMo esque.

Hootie · 10-01-2010, 12:37 AM

seriously...

comparing a 2007 Herm led Chiefs game @ Indy to a 2010 Chiefs game @ Indy is one of the dumbest comparisons I've ever heard.

**BossChief** · 10-01-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I think you're comparing apples to oranges here...the teams you are comparing have absolutely NO SIMILARITIES...

but hey...

bet is done...

and when I win I probably won't even tough your sig or avatar...because I don't care...but you're trying to act like I never "stand by my claims" which is total bullshit.

How are they not similar?

what do you mean by "tough your sig or avatar"?

Do me a favor, rep this post (neg or pos, I dont care...neg may be easier to find) so I can find it easily find it after the game, will ya?

should be fun.

**BossChief** · 10-01-2010, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Dude...

It's pretty easy to stop talking about a rookie TE...

Peyton Manning is brought up more on this Chiefs board than Tony Moeaki...

I'm not going to stop talking about Peyton Manning...that is just setting me up for something that isn't going to happen.

use the search function to see that Ipost about Moeaki (well before the draft) about as much as you post about PM...I think its a wash.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

seriously...

comparing a 2007 Herm led Chiefs game @ Indy to a 2010 Chiefs game @ Indy is one of the dumbest comparisons I've ever heard.

I think Indy hasnt changed much since then, while we have improved across the board at about every facet of the game since then is my point. I wasn't trying to say anything more. That should have been easy to grasp...

Hootie · 10-01-2010, 12:45 AM

the false hope our fan base has for this game is going to result in a meltdown on this site of epic proportions...

**BossChief** · 10-01-2010, 12:48 AM

I may have been the only realist on the board that predicted us to go 10-6 in our season prediction thread...after predicting 4-12 last year and only missing the previous year by one game while predicting 3-13 (albeit on another board cause I wasn't here quite yet).

I think we beat Indy, but lose the following week to Houston.

Thats how I see it, I think we match up quite well and have a real good chance at beating them with Romeo getting two weeks to prepare for PM and Charlie getting two weeks to plan how to attack them in a way that lets us succeed. I think When they sell out to stop our running game, Moeaki and DMC win their matchups and Cassel does enough not to lose the game for us.....which will open up the running game and allow us to keep their defense honest.

Ill be pissed if you dont choose my sig or avatar if you do win, though. That would be a slap in the face.

Hootie · 10-01-2010, 12:50 AM

alright we'll see...I'm cheering for you to win more than you can imagine.

**BossChief** · 10-01-2010, 12:54 AM

And to clarify...I predicted 8-8 if Cassel doesnt show up and 10-6 if he improves at a reasonable level throughout the year under Weis. Not great, just reasonable.

Look at the schedule, looks like I nailed that one...so far, anyway. Plenty of time for that to blow up in my face, I guess.

**BossChief** · 10-01-2010, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

alright we'll see...I'm cheering for you to win more than you can imagine.

Rasputin · 10-01-2010, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

and Boss...

I was just starting to gain respect for you and now you think KC is going to go into Indy and win?

Wow...

I just...wow...can't fathom that level of homerism.

That's KnowMo esque.

I think we got a good chance of winning. We are playing good football rain or nice weather. The only thing that may hold us back, of course is Cassel. That & not sure how much Peytons going to pick on Carr cuz he would be foolish to throw to Flowers much. Our team is still capable of winning this game. This is not homerism, I have my doupts as well but we have the play makers and the right play calling system on both sides of the ball (dicapline on defense). This is not a shoe win for the Colts. Houston showed that the Colts are not indestructable.

beer bacon · 10-01-2010, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

the false hope our fan base has for this game is going to result in a meltdown on this site of epic proportions...

You are fighting the good fighting proving that we have no chance!! Keep it up champ. Damn these fools and their optimism. Why can't they see that Indy is unstoppable? THe homers !!!!!

milkman · 10-01-2010, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Absolutely. I'm interested in any bet regarding this game.

I read a keys to the game article...

Here are the keys to a Chiefs win:

50% 3rd down conversions...

Win the turnover battle.

Win the T.O.P.

Matt Cassel has to have TWO touchdown passes...and complete 65% of his passes.

If we win, it will be behind the passing game...because the Colts are smart enough to not let us run on them.

Guys...

You keep saying..."Arian" who?!? WELL NO SHIT!

The Colts were prepped to stop MATT SCHAUB AND ANDRE JOHNSON...and as referenced now several times...they have played well against the run the last two weeks now...

To think we're just going to run all over them because we have the #1 rushing offense in the NFL is ludicrous...

We've all watched the games...what has been so impressive about the Chiefs ground game? TJ gets us consistent positive yards and puts us in 3rd and manageable every time...well we never manage to pick it up!

Jamaal has had one long ass TD run, one great 3rd down run, and then a bunch of garbage yards right before halftime in a few games...

and then we had the 4th quarter against a dejected 49ers team that we whooped up on!

I love our ground attack...but it isn't going to win us games this year by itself...no way, no how...Matt Cassel and Charlie Weis are going to have to win us games with creative playcalls like we did against San Fran...

If we can do that a few times against Indy, convert our 3rd downs, and get TWO lucky bounces...we might pull off a miracle.

yes...

A MIRACLE

The Giants ran the ball 20 times for 120 yards against the Colts, a 4.8 YPC average.

The problem is that even great running teams need to put the ball in the air at times, and when the Giants did go to the air, they couldn't keep Mathis and Freeny off of Eli Manning.

The Donkeys decided that they were going to shoot it out against the Colts, cause you know, Josh McDumbass is a McGenious(cps).

I don't think the Colts can stop the Chiefs from running the ball effectively, but like I said, even great running teams have to pass occassionally.

The questions then becomes, can Albert and Richardson contain Freeney and Mathis, and if so, can Cassel and the receivers make enough plays to move the chains?

I don't think the Chiefs win this game, but I think it will be a much better, and closer, game than I thought it would be before the season started.

milkman · 10-01-2010, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I am a huge Peyton Manning fan.

He's the closest thing to Michael Jordan I've ever seen.

He's the best football player I've ever watched.

He's absolutely amazing and the things he does are unbelievable...

And this is a QB driven league...and other than that rough stretch they had (before rattling off like 9 straight) in 2008 (when Lucas Field opened up)...they don't lose at home.

and yet suddenly people are giving us a 60% shot of victory?!

What?

WHAT?

The problem with this statement is that you aren't old enough to have a true perspective on things.

Is Peyton Manning a great QB?

Yes he is.

But the fact is, the NFL has adjusted and tweaked the rules so much in just the last 12 years that it has made defending a great QB so much more difficult than it was before.

The numbers that guys like Johnny Unitas, John Hadl (most underrarted QB ever), Dan Marino, Warren Moon, etc..etc.. would be ridiculous, and they would be every bit as indefensible as Manning is now.

It is no coincidense that even average QBs are putting up stupid numbers.

LOCOChief · 10-01-2010, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Honestly Jones/Charles is better under center than Cassel

Honestly?

CupidStunt · 10-01-2010, 08:03 AM

2 points.

1) Could any of you actually contain the jizz if the Chiefs beat the Colts? I couldn't. Nor could most of the experts, I suspect. And knowing that they'll almost certainly make the playoffs just a month into the season is an unthinkable feeling.

2) 0.5% chance to run for 200 yards is a HORRIBLE number. First, the Colts had more than that dropped on them by Arian "just off the practice squad" Foster. Second, the Chiefs just ran for more than that on a FAR, FAR superior run defense. They're AVERGAGING something like 160ypg. Bottom line, if there's any game this year where you'd pick the Chiefs to do that, it's this game. Charles for 120 and Jones for 80 is NOT out of the question. The Colts are no match for KC's running game whatsoever. They'd have to get a BIG (21+ points) lead for KC not to do much running the ball.

09-30-2010, 10:06 PM
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1757293	How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts by Patrick Allen Sep 30th The Kansas City Chiefs won’t take on the Indianapolis Colts until October 10th but you can bet Todd Haley and his coaching staff are using their “week off” to work. Here at Arrowhead Addict, we’re doing the same. The Chiefs are still not getting respect from the national media. Don’t confuse KC’s recent mentions in the national press as respect. They are just mentions. The “experts” have to mention that the Chiefs are 3-0 and they have to mention that it is remarkable but that doesn’t mean they respect them and it certainly doesn’t mean they think the Chiefs stand a snowballs chance in hell of knocking off the Colts on the road. They might be right. Peyton Manning is one of the best QB’s ever and as some of our astute readers pointed out earlier today, the Colts are nearly unbeatable at home. Since 2005 the Colts are 35 and 6 at home. Despite their record the Chiefs are still developing. They have a very, very young secondary. The type of secondary Peyton Manning puts in an omelet and eats for breakfast. Yet given all that, I think the Chiefs are perfectly constructed to beat the Indianapolis Colts. Ok, maybe not perfectly constructed. It would help if the Chiefs had Joe Montana at QB instead of Matt Cassel but you have to play with the guys you’ve got. While game planning for the Colts, the Chiefs need to look no farther than the Houston Texans. Houston is the only team to beat the Colts this year and they exposed in the first game weaknesses that Indi’s last two opponents have failed to take advantage of. Whether the Texans stumbled upon their victory by planning or luck, it worked and the Chiefs would be fools not to look pretty hard at the Texans Week 1 box score. I’m no fool so I’ve done just that. The way the Texans beat the Colts was very simple. They ran it down their freaking throats. For years the Texans have been getting into shootouts with Peyton Manning and for years Manning has beat them. Not this year. The Texans beat the mighty Indianapolis Colts with a measly 98 yards passing. Matt Shaub, normally a very good QB capable of putting up huge numbers, attempted only 17 passes to Manning’s 57. No the Texans ran on the Colts. The pounded the ball with Arian Foster, who racked up 231 yards. In the end the Texans gashed Indi’s pitiful run defense for 257 yards and 3 rushing touchdowns. On the defensive side of the ball, the Texans weren’t delusional enough to believe they could shut down Manning. Nobody can shut down Manning. Peyton completed a ridiculous 40 of 57 passes for 433 yards and 3 touchdowns. More than a few times the Texans let Manning march down into their territory before tightening up their D. They avoided letting Manning get the big play, giving him the underneath stuff. They let him get his numbers. They got the victory. The Chiefs have a team constructed to implement a similar game plan. They have a quick and athletic secondary that knows how to tackle. They should be able to keep the Colts receivers in front of them. When the Colts get into Chiefs territory, Flowers, Carr, Berry and Lewis should be able to tighten up enough to hold the Colts to some FG’s. When the Chiefs have the ball they have to take advantage of Indi’s 29th ranked run defense. The Colts are giving up an average of 141.3 yards per game while the Chiefs are averaging 160.7 yards rushing. This won’t be a repeat of the 2007 Wild Card Playoffs. Bob Sanders isn’t coming back. The Colts aren’t going to suddenly learn how to stop the run. If the Chiefs can gash the Colts on the ground they should be able to score without Matt Cassel needing to throw for 400 yards. The Chiefs will have to be opportunistic. They won’t be able to turn the ball over and they had better continue to avoid penalties. If they can do these things I think the Chiefs have a legitimate shot at shocking the world. A couple of special teams touchdowns wouldn’t hurt either. http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/09/3...eat-the-colts/ It'd be a lot easier if we could have Bernie "Flashdance" Pollard for just one play. [Which would make Curtis Painter our starting QB next year. ] Last edited by T-post Tom; 09-30-2010 at 10:19 PM..
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10-01-2010, 12:35 AM	#91
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	and Boss... I was just starting to gain respect for you and now you think KC is going to go into Indy and win? Wow... I just...wow...can't fathom that level of homerism. That's KnowMo esque.
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10-01-2010, 12:37 AM	#92
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	seriously... comparing a 2007 Herm led Chiefs game @ Indy to a 2010 Chiefs game @ Indy is one of the dumbest comparisons I've ever heard.
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10-01-2010, 12:45 AM	#95
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	the false hope our fan base has for this game is going to result in a meltdown on this site of epic proportions...
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10-01-2010, 12:48 AM	#96
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1725912	I may have been the only realist on the board that predicted us to go 10-6 in our season prediction thread...after predicting 4-12 last year and only missing the previous year by one game while predicting 3-13 (albeit on another board cause I wasn't here quite yet). I think we beat Indy, but lose the following week to Houston. Thats how I see it, I think we match up quite well and have a real good chance at beating them with Romeo getting two weeks to prepare for PM and Charlie getting two weeks to plan how to attack them in a way that lets us succeed. I think When they sell out to stop our running game, Moeaki and DMC win their matchups and Cassel does enough not to lose the game for us.....which will open up the running game and allow us to keep their defense honest. Ill be pissed if you dont choose my sig or avatar if you do win, though. That would be a slap in the face. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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10-01-2010, 12:50 AM	#97
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	alright we'll see...I'm cheering for you to win more than you can imagine.
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10-01-2010, 12:54 AM	#98
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1725912	And to clarify...I predicted 8-8 if Cassel doesnt show up and 10-6 if he improves at a reasonable level throughout the year under Weis. Not great, just reasonable. Look at the schedule, looks like I nailed that one...so far, anyway. Plenty of time for that to blow up in my face, I guess. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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10-01-2010, 08:03 AM	#105
CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $-726668	2 points. 1) Could any of you actually contain the jizz if the Chiefs beat the Colts? I couldn't. Nor could most of the experts, I suspect. And knowing that they'll almost certainly make the playoffs just a month into the season is an unthinkable feeling. 2) 0.5% chance to run for 200 yards is a HORRIBLE number. First, the Colts had more than that dropped on them by Arian "just off the practice squad" Foster. Second, the Chiefs just ran for more than that on a FAR, FAR superior run defense. They're AVERGAGING something like 160ypg. Bottom line, if there's any game this year where you'd pick the Chiefs to do that, it's this game. Charles for 120 and Jones for 80 is NOT out of the question. The Colts are no match for KC's running game whatsoever. They'd have to get a BIG (21+ points) lead for KC not to do much running the ball.
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