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Old 10-30-2010, 03:52 PM  
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Flowers and Hali in the running for PFF Defensive Player of the Year
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2. Tamba Hali (Chiefs, +25.1)
Perhaps the best pure pass rusher in the league this year. League-leading 43 total quarterback pressures, and without a single penalty. He’s not as great in run support, but he’s good enough.

3. Brandon Flowers (Chiefs, +15.8)
So he hasn’t got an island named after himself yet, but Flowers just keeps on making plays. Yet to allow a touchdown with only 39% of passes his way completed, and has a personal passer rating against of 28.8. In 41 targets, he’s only allowed one pass of 20+ yards. Stellar.
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:53 PM   #16
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Damn I forgot about that one. !

The funny thing is now, it seems like Tamba is MORE suited in a 3-4 than a 4-3 after all. He has grown by leaps and bounds since the change where I actually do think he was maxed out in a 4-3 role.
I dont.

I think that if we had a couple DTs in that 4-3 that could get pressure and actually collapse a pocket that Hali could have been a 12 sacks guy in that formation as well.

We will never know.

What we do know is that he is an extremely versatile defender that is still getting better.

No doubt.
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:54 PM   #17
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I dont.

I think that if we had a couple DTs in that 4-3 that could get pressure and actually collapse a pocket that Hali could have been a 12 sacks guy in that formation as well.

We will never know.

What we do know is that he is an extremely versatile defender that is still getting better.

No doubt.
Without a doubt. It's amazing how much the guy was underrated and unappreciated by so many here.
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:55 PM   #18
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That came from Mecca I believe.
shhhhhhh Im trying to start a mini fight on a day when Mizzou lost big...but I also remember Deez saying something similar as well
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Old 10-30-2010, 04:58 PM   #19
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No you guys have it all wrong. Hali would be best as a third pass rusher coming off the bench in passing situations.
Like I said, a DECENT situational player.

DECENT

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Best MF'ing pass rusher of the 2010 season so far bitches.

Hali >>>>>> Ware/Matthews/Harrison EVERYONE
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Some day you guys might realize that constantly complaining about those guys doesn't do anything but prod them on. Let it go.
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I hate Tamba Hali, If I was hired as GM I'd cut him 5 seconds after I was announced.
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You're gonna bring out that dude who thinks Tamba Hali is gonna be a great stand up rusher.
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Tamba Hali as a standup player is probably going to suck.
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If you haven't noticed tons of people think Tamba Hali is the ****ing man, this is the nature of the fan base.
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Hali basically is what he is, a situational pass rusher.
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Tamba Hali plays hard and makes some nice plays here and there so he's managed to look good because the rest of the players around him are complete and utter shit.

If he started on a top 5 defense he'd be considered the weak link.
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If Tamba Hali is a cornerstone of your defense...be prepared to be ranked in the 20's.
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I still have a really hard time believing you can field a top notch defense with Tamba Hali as an important player.
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Tamba is what he is...a player that was maxed out in college and wont ever get better /cp
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Id also like to point out that a lot of the credit for Halis play should be given to the "unimportant 5-techniques"....Dorsey playing the way he is and commanding so much attention is surely helping Hali...same goes for Shaun Smith.

Also, Id like to add that Flowers did everything himself. Dude is a flat out stud that deserves a huge payday. He is exactly what you want from the position (except for an inch or two) and the level he is playing at right now is about as good as it gets. I wouldnt be surprised to see him attend the next 8 pro bowls. He surely isnt a guy that is playing for a paycheck or anything, he is playing this way because he wants to be great.
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Id also like to point out that a lot of the credit for Halis play should be given to the "unimportant 5-techniques"....Dorsey playing the way he is and commanding so much attention is surely helping Hali...same goes for Shaun Smith.
**** that. You don't know shit.


(we both said this together but got shit on for it)
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This isn't hard, just type in Hali on search and cross reference with your friendly neighborhood drafturbator.
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This isn't hard, just type in Hali on search and cross reference with your friendly neighborhood drafturbator.
Well I know but sometimes I'm just too lazy to do so. either way it's harder to rail on a guy that Mecca did. Milkman was a distance second and he railed pretty hard too. But since at least Milky has admitted how wrong he was and that he's happy about it.

Which is why I say that Mecca is nothing more than a troll.
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I remember someone saying Hali wouldn't even be a starter for 20 other teams in the league.

I also remember someone saying before the season started this year that Flowers was barely a top 10 CB and didn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Revis.

It's in the Revis holdout thread but I can't find the thread.

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I'll give Flowers a wooden nickel if he can help himself from being beat by a ****ing 4th round rookie.

Flowers isn't even in the same ****ing hemisphere as Revis.
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I highly doubt it.

First off, he's 5'9 and not very physical.

Secondly, he's missed games because he's just not a tough, physical corner.

He's a second tier guy at best. There's nothing wrong with that, but there's no way he's EVER mentioned in the same breath as Revis or Awesome-wah.


He doesn't have the same physical stature or presence.

Hell just read through this.

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I expect Hali to rush the passer like an OLB on Tecmo SuperBowl every play.
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