I hope the Pats beat the ever living sh*t

[Nzoner]

out of the J-E-T-S this Sunday.

Hey Rex and gang when you finally sport some hardware,then run your mouth if you must.


Rex Ryan offers no apology for Cromartie's comments on Brady

cromartie_0112.jpgFOXBORO -- Jets coach Rex Ryan just finished his conference call with the New England media and offered no apologizes for his cornerback Antonio Cromartie, who in an interview with the New York Daily News used a crude slur to label Tom Brady.

"We're not apologizing for anything," said Ryan. "Did we vote [Brady] to be the starting quarterback in the Pro Bowl? Yes we did. Did we vote him for the NFL Player of the Year? Yeah we did, so there's plenty of respect but we don't have to be all lovey dovey and say, 'Oh he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.' We have a right to our opinion and a comment like that, it's no big deal. A guy makes a comment, big deal."

Unlike Bill Belichick, who doesn't like his players giving bulletin board material to opposing teams, Ryan doesn't have a problem with it.

"In this country you're allowed to have opinions and all that kind of stuff," Ryan said. "Obviously as an organization we respect Tom Brady, there's no question about it. But hey, is there dislike between us and Brady, and Brady against the Jets? Of course there is. Am I going to punish Cromartie for saying something or whatever? No. I know one thing, we respect New England but we don't fear them. A comment like that, it just [shows] that they're the enemy."

In the Daily News article, Cromartie said that the Jets took exception when Brady threw a fourth-quarter touchdown and pointed to the Jets sidelines during the Patriots 45-3 win in Week 13.

"We see that a lot. He does that a lot," said Cromartie. "That's the kind of guy he is. We really don't give a damn, to tell you the truth."

Cromartie said that he "hates" both Brady and the Patriots.

"Everything is personal with me and the Patriots," said Cromartie, who was a rookie with San Diego when the Patriots overcame a 21-13 fourth-quarter deficit to beat the Chargers, 24-21, in the Divisional round of the playoffs in 2006. "So I really don't care. I don't have too much to say about them. I'm just ready to play ball on Sunday."

Cromartie also gave a little hint for Sunday's game plan on how to stop Brady and his receivers.

"If I beat the (expletive) out of his receivers, he can't throw the ball," Cromartie said.
When asked if that was indeed the Jets game plan, Ryan said that the Jets players didn't get the game plan until today.

Ryan is a trash-talking coach and his players follow his lead.

"I think maybe they do follow my lead in the fact that, you know what, we can say what's on our mind or whatever," said Ryan. "I don't say whatever we do don't say this or don't say that. We're a transparent organization. We let our guys speak and we don't try to tell them what to say and what not to say."

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BRADY's RESPONSE...I love the last paragraph


Much like his coach, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady isn't about to get into a war of words with anyone on the Jets this week.

Brady spoke to the large media assembly at his locker this morning and was asked if he had any response to the obscenity-laced comments made about him by Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie.

"I've been called worse," Brady said when informed that Cromartie called him an [expletive]. "I'm sure there's a long list of people that feel that way but he's a good player, [Darrelle] Revis is a great player. They've got a great secondary. They're one of the best defenses we face. We're going to spend a lot of time preparing for them.

"What they're capable of doing over there, shutting down the Colts offense like they did, was pretty impressive because we know how good that offense is, but we're going to get ready to play."

Brady was also asked about pointing at the sidelines after big plays and other so-called "antics" as described by Jets coach Rex Ryan earlier in the week.

"I'm an emotional player, so it's all in the spirit of the game and the competition," Brady said. "I don't know [if there's anything to Ryan's observations], he can probably answer that better than I could."

Brady was asked if it was a little more fun to face a team where there is strong dislike on both sides.

"Is it more fun? It's always more satisfying to win," Brady said. "Especially in games like this, not that you need more satisfaction to win in a game like this because it's the biggest game we played all season and I'm always satisfied when we win. I think there's certainly big games that we had against them. The last game at home was a very big game, that was very satisfying, so this one will be satisfying also if we win."

Regarding all the talk coming out of Jets camp this week, Brady wasn't fazed in the least.

"We're spending our time getting ready to play," Brady said. "I don't think we're spending our time figuring out what we can do to combat what people may say about us. Not everybody has great things to say about our team, or our organization, or certain players. And that's kind of the way it's always been so... we're just going to do our talking on the field. I think that's what we've always chosen to do."

Brady said the outcome of Sunday's game will determine if all the talk had any effect.

We'll see," he said. "We'll see on Sunday afternoon at 7:30 p.m. That's when everybody will be able to tell whether it played a role or not. We'll have to wait and see."

The Patriots quarterback was also asked about comments made earlier in the week by Ryan that questioned Brady's commitment to studying the game.

"I do what my coach asks me to do and however he feels I need to prepare, he'll let me know," Brady said. "We try to win games, you know? Look at what we've accomplished over 10 years and I think that speaks to the whole preparation of our team. That's why we play, we play to win games more so than anything else. You're not trying to do anything other than win. The goal of playing football is to win, every time you take the field, score more points than the other team, however you need to get that done, that's what you need to do..."

"We don't engage in it very often," Brady said about all the pregame talk. "Every once in a while maybe someone will say something, but for the most part our team has just stayed the course, spend our time preparing for the other team... We can sit here and say a whole bunch of things, too, but I think we realize it's really not the point of what this team's all about, what this organization's all about, all the way from the owner of our team, to the head coach of our team, and that trickles down to the players.

"Now other teams may have a different view or perspective of how they want to handle things. When you're representative of the organization like the Patriot team is, that's how we try to conduct ourselves."

[Stram fan]

Has any 11 win team that went 1-1 in the regular season against an opponent ever been a 9 point dog in the second round of the playoffs?

To repeat:
11 wins
1-1 in the regular season
Second round of playoffs
9 point dog

If it's happened before, I can't recall it. I think too much attention is being paid to the big blowout game, a game in which the Jets completely abandoned their strengths and opened with a hurry up offense simply becauses Sanchez had been hot in the two minute offense in games leading up to this one.

Since it was early in the season, everyone is discounting the Jets 14 point win over the Pats. The game Cleveland destroyed the Pats is being written off as an anomoly,while the Jets blowout game isn't.

I am here to guarantee the Jets won't get blown out this time. They will cover the spread. It's unlikely they win, but it is within the realm of possibility.

I have always had an affinity to the old AFL teams. It was the Jets and Chiefs that forced the merger into what we know as the NFL today. From those glorious days, I still like the Chiefs. I think many, especially the youngsters, lack an appreciation for what these two franchises did against all odds.

What happened back then will always bond these two football teams, although it fades as us old guys also fade away. Belichick is Darth Vader, secretly born of Al Davis. NE is the dark side, and he has you Chiefs fans tempted and enticed. Ryan is Luke Skywalker... he has no chance, and his outspoken confidence, that cocky refusal to accept defeat, to take on the dark side seems irrational, reckless.

Don't go to the dark side. Root for the Jets. And we're sorry about the whole Herman Edwards thing.

[007]

Originally Posted by Stram fan

Has any 11 win team that went 1-1 in the regular season against an opponent ever been a 9 point dog in the second round of the playoffs?

To repeat:
11 wins
1-1 in the regular season
Second round of playoffs
9 point dog

If it's happened before, I can't recall it. I think too much attention is being paid to the big blowout game, a game in which the Jets completely abandoned their strengths and opened with a hurry up offense simply becauses Sanchez had been hot in the two minute offense in games leading up to this one.

Since it was early in the season, everyone is discounting the Jets 14 point win over the Pats. The game Cleveland destroyed the Pats is being written off as an anomoly,while the Jets blowout game isn't.

I am here to guarantee the Jets won't get blown out this time. They will cover the spread. It's unlikely they win, but it is within the realm of possibility.

I have always had an affinity to the old AFL teams. It was the Jets and Chiefs that forced the merger into what we know as the NFL today. From those glorious days, I still like the Chiefs. I think many, especially the youngsters, lack an appreciation for what these two franchises did against all odds.

What happened back then will always bond these two football teams, although it fades as us old guys also fade away. Belichick is Darth Vader, secretly born of Al Davis. NE is the dark side, and he has you Chiefs fans tempted and enticed. Ryan is Luke Skywalker... he has no chance, and his outspoken confidence, that cocky refusal to accept defeat, to take on the dark side seems irrational, reckless.

Don't go to the dark side. Root for the Jets. And we're sorry about the whole Herman Edwards thing.

Ah, well that just makes up for everything.

[Over-Head]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

I root for NE & Pitt to never win another game. Ever.

THIS

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by Stram fan

I am here to guarantee the Jets won't get blown out this time. They will cover the spread. It's unlikely they win, but it is within the realm of possibility.

Exactly why I put "I hope" in my thread title.As a football fan I hope the Pats whip their ass and good,as a gambler,no thanks,I'll take the Jets and the points.

[007]

Originally Posted by Nzoner

Exactly why I put "I hope" in my thread title.As a football fan I hope the Pats whip their ass and good,as a gambler,no thanks,I'll take the Jets and the points.

Did you get my PM?

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by Guru

Did you get my PM?

Sorry man,I did,but I have a few fires raging in my life right now so I didn't want to commit to anything and then have to cancel.I should know more by early next week if that's not too late.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Over-Head

As did a lot of us....good memories though

I don't think I've ever seen a more compelling instance of cosmic karma/justice than the Tuck Rule to even out for Ben Dreith.

[Amnorix]

Not sure I can copy this in, but omg.



If not, here's a link.

http://twitpic.com/3pv0c7

[LiveSteam]

Hear ya go Amnorix

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Not sure I can copy this in, but omg.



If not, here's a link.

http://twitpic.com/3pv0c7

Poppycock!

Revenge: Time to Beat the Bully!

[Over-Head]

Originally Posted by Dylan

Poppycock!

Revenge: Time to Beat the Bully!

sweet

[2112]

Originally Posted by Dylan

Poppycock!

Revenge: Time to Beat the Bully!

[2112]

Mangold as an ewok and Namath as Yoda is making me spit my coffee out

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by JD10367

Wow.

The Jets need to pressure Brady.

But not only that, they need to "beat the guy in front of him".

What a ****ing brain surgeon!

If Jets want to beat Patriots, Steve Spagnuolo has some insight on how to rattle Tom Brady

BY Ralph Vacchiano
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
January 13, 2011


The Giants defense treats New England quarterback Tom Brady like a ragdoll in Super Bowl XLII, sacking him five times and hitting him more than 15 times in the upset win.

When it was just Steve Spagnuolo sitting in his office with a coach's clicker in his hands, that's when he would worry the most in the days leading up to Super Bowl XLII. He had two weeks to study the New England Patriots offense and try to peek into Bill Belichick's brain.

With every frame of game film, though, he'd return to the same question: How the heck am I going to stop this team?

"Yeah, every time I looked at it," the former Giants defensive coordinator says. "I remember thinking, 'OK, we might have a chance here if we keep them under 30.' Now think about that for a second: I thought we'd be playing good defense if they got 25 or 28 points. It was a daunting, daunting task."

Perhaps, but in the end, Spagnuolo and the Giants found a way to do what few have done in the last decade - beat Patriots QB Tom Brady in a big game. That's what the Jets and Rex Ryan will be trying to do Sunday in Foxborough when they face the Patriots in a divisional playoff showdown.

Speaking from his office in St. Louis, where he's the head coach of the Rams, Spagnuolo still credits "good players and great leadership" - not his defensive game plan - for the Giants' Super Bowl upset. He knows, however, that the way his defense came hard after Brady from the very first snap was a significant factor, too.

"Brady is the key cog that keeps that thing rolling," Spagnuolo says. "I haven't seen them much this year, but my guess is he still is."

Brady didn't put up the record-breaking numbers this season that he did in 2007, but he had what will likely be an MVP season. He completed 65.9% of his passes for 3,900 yards and 36 TDs, with only four INTs. That included a 326-yard, four-TD performance in a 45-3 win over the Jets.

The Jets sacked Brady three times in that game, but weren't able to sustain pressure. If they follow the Giants' example from 2007, Brady will spend much more time on his back. The constant pressure on Brady from Spagnuolo's Super Bowl scheme resulted in five sacks, nine hits, one pass that was deflected at the line of scrimmage and countless other throws that appeared rushed.

Brady still threw for 266 yards in Super Bowl XLII, but he needed 48 attempts (and 29 completions) to do it. He also didn't throw a TD pass until late in the fourth quarter. When Brady got the ball back with 29 seconds remaining in the game, needing about 40 or so yards for a game-tying field-goal attempt, the Giants blitzed him heavily, sacked him once, and the Patriots didn't gain a yard.

Pressure isn't the only answer, Spagnuolo says. Belichick knows the Jets are likely to go after Brady, and the Patriots coach will likely have an answer for every opposing scheme.

"Just saying, 'Hey, we're going to go after Tom Brady' doesn't necessarily work," Spagnuolo says. "I'm sure every team that's played him has thought that way. I'm sure that Rex (Ryan) will do the same thing. He's played them enough. He knows when to go and what not to do.

"But when you go out there and it's time to play the game, it still comes back to the players beating the guy in front of them. That's what it'll come down to. The Patriots are very smart on offense, the Jets do a good job on defense. It'll just be a matter of which side gets more players playing at a high level."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...o_rattle_.html

[Amnorix]

Jets don't have the same kind of defensive line.