Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room > Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-21-2010, 12:38 PM  
Chiefnj2 Chiefnj2 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Chiefnj2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Casino cash: $6654388
Mike Mayock comments on top 3 QBs.

Out of the 3 top qb's comming into the draft who can you see as the biggest RISK pick Bradford,Mccoy,Clausen?

Mike Mayock, NFL Network
Hey Fred, interesting question. I like Jimmy Clausen, but I see him as the biggest risk. Even though he comes out of a pro-style offense. Bradford is very, very solid. And I think McCoy is a little bit mroe of a developmental play, but easily the best athlete of the three. Clausen, for me, needs to be more consistent in the pocket and needs to make more consistent throws.


So, Mayock thinks Clausen is a bigger risk/bust potential than Bradford and McCoy.
Posts: 22,541
Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 02:04 AM   #91
Saccopoo Saccopoo is offline
Kindness in words...
 
Saccopoo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zion
Casino cash: $10025483
C'mon Hamas.

Solder gave up one sack in the entire 2010 season and from all accounts, he's killing guys at the Senior Bowl practices.

The guy has grown leaps and bounds every season and he was on everybody's "All-American" list at the end of 2010.

He's got excellent weight room strength, has very good hip/waist and knee bend and has the athleticism to effectively get into the second level and engage linebackers and D-backs. He's also a smart kid who has put in a ton of effort to grow into the position. Everyone talks about his drive and desire to get better every day.

Add to that he's got a ton of room to put on another 20 lbs. on his frame and not even show it. The guy will end up playing at 335 and look good doing it.

I'd be shocked if he wasn't the first tackle off the board come draft day. And I don't give two shits about CU or anybody that plays there. However, Solder and the cornerback, Smith, are legit first/second round talents.
Posts: 15,450
Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 10:21 AM   #92
Chiefnj2 Chiefnj2 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Chiefnj2's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Casino cash: $6654388
I'd take Cam Jordan over Solder at 21.
__________________
Mismanaging the clock.
Posts: 22,541
Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 11:21 AM   #93
spanky 52 spanky 52 is offline
Veteran
 
spanky 52's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2008
Casino cash: $-964399
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 View Post
I'd take Cam Jordan over Solder at 21.
If Jordan is there at 21 and the Chief's pass on him, I'm done with the Chiefs. I know it's not a pressing need but this guy is a monster. I've got to think he goes between 10 and 15, maybe higher.
Posts: 1,036
spanky 52 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.spanky 52 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.spanky 52 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.spanky 52 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.spanky 52 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.spanky 52 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.spanky 52 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.spanky 52 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.spanky 52 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.spanky 52 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.spanky 52 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 12:56 PM   #94
eazyb81 eazyb81 is offline
The Illuminati
 
eazyb81's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: the road less traveled
Casino cash: $9984900
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanky 52 View Post
If Jordan is there at 21 and the Chief's pass on him, I'm done with the Chiefs. I know it's not a pressing need but this guy is a monster. I've got to think he goes between 10 and 15, maybe higher.
LOL, did you really post this?

Put your hands up and slowly back away from the keyboard.......
Posts: 12,033
eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 01:02 PM   #95
Saccopoo Saccopoo is offline
Kindness in words...
 
Saccopoo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zion
Casino cash: $10025483
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanky 52 View Post
If Jordan is there at 21 and the Chief's pass on him, I'm done with the Chiefs. I know it's not a pressing need but this guy is a monster. I've got to think he goes between 10 and 15, maybe higher.
That's great. Let's draft yet another defensive end in the first round so one of them can ride the pine for 90% of the snaps. I think that's the smartest thing anyone has ever said about the Chiefs and their drafts. That would really get us over the hump to have three first round 3-4 defensive ends on the roster. (And that's three out of the last four years.) Utterly brilliant draft move if they made it.

I can only hope that if the Chiefs do have the opportunity to draft Jordan and pass on him, you stick to your word and cease to be a Chiefs fan. I suspect that the collective IQ of Chiefs fans everywhere would actually raise.
Posts: 15,450
Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 01:37 PM   #96
bowener bowener is offline
BAMF!
 
bowener's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Casino cash: $9549897
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo View Post
That's great. Let's draft yet another defensive end in the first round so one of them can ride the pine for 90% of the snaps. I think that's the smartest thing anyone has ever said about the Chiefs and their drafts. That would really get us over the hump to have three first round 3-4 defensive ends on the roster. (And that's three out of the last four years.) Utterly brilliant draft move if they made it.

I can only hope that if the Chiefs do have the opportunity to draft Jordan and pass on him, you stick to your word and cease to be a Chiefs fan. I suspect that the collective IQ of Chiefs fans everywhere would actually raise.
This. Drafting another DE is slightly more stupid than drafting another LT to replace Albert when the Chiefs have much greater needs... right, Sac?
__________________
Main Entry: bowe·ner
Pronunciation: \ˈbō-nər\
Function: noun
Date: circa 2007

Posts: 8,358
bowener has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 02:42 PM   #97
Saccopoo Saccopoo is offline
Kindness in words...
 
Saccopoo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zion
Casino cash: $10025483
Quote:
Originally Posted by bowener View Post
This. Drafting another DE is slightly more stupid than drafting another LT to replace Albert when the Chiefs have much greater needs... right, Sac?
Not really. By drafting a real left tackle, it would allow the Chiefs to push Albert inside to left guard and, viola!, we've upgrade two positions of need in one single deft draft day maneuver.

However, neither Dorsey nor Jackson are 3-4 nose tackles, and as such, if we spent a first rounder yet again on a five tech defensive end it would mean that one of those highly paid first round selections will be on the bench for the vast majority of snaps.

So, in summary drafting another five tech DE is nothing like drafting a competent left tackle.
Posts: 15,450
Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saccopoo is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 04:11 PM   #98
Chiefnj2 Chiefnj2 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Chiefnj2's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Casino cash: $6654388
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo View Post
Not really. By drafting a real left tackle, it would allow the Chiefs to push Albert inside to left guard and, viola!, we've upgrade two positions of need in one single deft draft day maneuver.

However, neither Dorsey nor Jackson are 3-4 nose tackles, and as such, if we spent a first rounder yet again on a five tech defensive end it would mean that one of those highly paid first round selections will be on the bench for the vast majority of snaps.

So, in summary drafting another five tech DE is nothing like drafting a competent left tackle.
KC has Lilja and spent a 3rd rounder on Asamoah. Moving Albert inside would mean KC wasted a draft pick and/or a free agent.

Plus, it doesn't look like there will be a player who is likely to be better than Albert at the 21st pick. There will be several DE's likely to be better than TJax.
__________________
Mismanaging the clock.
Posts: 22,541
Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chiefnj2 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 05:15 PM   #99
keg in kc keg in kc is offline
oxymoron
 
keg in kc's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: OP/KC/Whatever
Casino cash: $9556299
Anybody we draft at 21 isn't taking Albert's job, he's taking Richardson's.
Posts: 58,682
keg in kc is obviously part of the inner Circle.keg in kc is obviously part of the inner Circle.keg in kc is obviously part of the inner Circle.keg in kc is obviously part of the inner Circle.keg in kc is obviously part of the inner Circle.keg in kc is obviously part of the inner Circle.keg in kc is obviously part of the inner Circle.keg in kc is obviously part of the inner Circle.keg in kc is obviously part of the inner Circle.keg in kc is obviously part of the inner Circle.keg in kc is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 05:40 PM   #100
'Hamas' Jenkins 'Hamas' Jenkins is offline
Now you've pissed me off!
 
'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7129572
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo View Post
C'mon Hamas.

Solder gave up one sack in the entire 2010 season and from all accounts, he's killing guys at the Senior Bowl practices.
He gave up two in that game alone, dumbass.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 75,083
'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 05:47 PM   #101
Nightfyre Nightfyre is offline
MVP
 
Nightfyre's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Helena, MT
Casino cash: $1298849
If you draft another 3-4 DE, you allow Smith to play NT full time, upgrading two positions at once. We need depth at 5-techs as our defense has demonstrated repeatedly last year.
Posts: 18,647
Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 05:49 PM   #102
philfree philfree is offline
Indian Twitter
 
philfree's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Free Agency
Casino cash: $-2223802
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 View Post
KC has Lilja and spent a 3rd rounder on Asamoah. Moving Albert inside would mean KC wasted a draft pick and/or a free agent.

Plus, it doesn't look like there will be a player who is likely to be better than Albert at the 21st pick. There will be several DE's likely to be better than TJax.

Could just mean that we improved our O line as well as made it deeper. Make them all compete and let the winners start and the other guys be backups. We can get by with Albert he's O.k. But that's all he is unless he improves some more. Which he could but is A just O.K. LT good enough to beat teams like Balt, Pitts and the Jets in the playoffs? We can't really even block SD and Oakland.

Anytime this season when we had to pass the good Ds overwhelmed our whole O line. So we need to be better across the board not just the interior.

That said if we draft a stud OLB in the 1st I'd be good with that.


PhilFree
__________________
[/SIGPIC]
Posts: 16,155
philfree has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.philfree has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.philfree has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.philfree has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.philfree has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.philfree has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.philfree has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.philfree has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.philfree has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.philfree has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.philfree has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2011, 12:15 AM   #103
Chiefs=Champions Chiefs=Champions is offline
Training Camp Hero
 
Chiefs=Champions's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Casino cash: $7974801
Solder seems good against speed rushes ill give him that. But anyone who has a slight bull rush could give him considerable problems...
Posts: 6,001
Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2011, 12:20 AM   #104
'Hamas' Jenkins 'Hamas' Jenkins is offline
Now you've pissed me off!
 
'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7129572
Watch that Cal tape and notice how many times guys get around his chop step and under his pads. It was a massacre.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 75,083
'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2011, 03:02 AM   #105
Chiefs=Champions Chiefs=Champions is offline
Training Camp Hero
 
Chiefs=Champions's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Casino cash: $7974801
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins View Post
Watch that Cal tape and notice how many times guys get around his chop step and under his pads. It was a massacre.
Theres just something akward about his footwork..

I wouldnt touch him in the draft.
Posts: 6,001
Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chiefs=Champions Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:53 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.