Life Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox: What is Poverty in the United States Today? - Page 6

Deberg_1990 · 07-19-2011, 07:45 AM

Fascinating..

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...k-ken-mcintyre

When Americans think of poverty, we tend to picture people who can’t adequately shelter, clothe, and feed themselves or their families.

When the Census Bureau defines “poverty,” though, it winds up painting more than 40 million Americans — one in seven — as “poor.”

Census officials continue to grossly exaggerate the numbers of the poor, creating a false picture in the public mind of widespread material deprivation, writes Heritage Foundation senior research fellow Robert Rector in a new paper.

“Most news stories on poverty feature homeless families, people living in crumbling shacks, or lines of the downtrodden eating in soup kitchens,” Rector says. “The actual living conditions of America’s poor are far different from these images.”

Congress is tying itself in knots figuring out how to cut spending and bring down a $14 trillion national debt. Lawmakers might well take a much closer look at the nearly a trillion dollars spent each year on welfare even though many recipients aren’t what the typical American would recognize as poor and in need of government assistance.

What is poverty? Americans might well be surprised to learn from other government data that the overwhelming majority of those defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau were well-housed and adequately fed even in the recession year 2009. About 4 percent of them did temporarily become homeless.

Data from the Department of Energy and other agencies show that the average poor family, as defined by Census officials:

● Lives in a home that is in good repair, not crowded, and equipped with air conditioning, clothes washer and dryer, and cable or satellite TV service.

● Prepares meals in a kitchen with a refrigerator, coffee maker and microwave as well as oven and stove.

● Enjoys two color TVs, a DVD player, VCR and — if children are there — an Xbox, PlayStation, or other video game system.

● Had enough money in the past year to meet essential needs, including adequate food and medical care.

MOhillbilly · 07-19-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

Smoker's entitlement pisses me the **** off. It was always like that in the restaurant industry. Smoker's were constantly going out back to take a smoke break or some shit while all the non-smokers had to keep on working.

As I've gotten older, this has shifted over into the parenting realm. We have a large group of friends, most with kids. Some of the parents still smoke when we get together socially (though they don't want their kids to know). So this group of smokers are constantly sneaking off outside to smoke cigarettes, leaving the rest of us inside to watch their ****ing kids and run cover for them when they kids come asking where their parents are. They'll disappear for 20 minutes at a time.

I flipped the hell out on them the other night. Everyone was at my house. There were about 20 kids running around inside. I'm trying to get dinner ready, and all the other ****ing adults scrammed outside to smoke. On top of that, some dumb twunt (a smoker) started preheating the oven for some shitty casserole she wanted to throw in, not realizing that my pork loin was resting in there, wrapped in foil.

I came barreling out of the house and unloaded with both barrels. "Alright, folks. I'm coooking you dinner already. I'm not babysitting your kids, too. Plus, you almost ****ed up my pork loin, and that's a crime I won't forgive."

For some reason, people were walking on eggshells around me the rest of the night.

back when them smokes mellowed everyone, includin the kids.

Then no one gave a shit.

NewChief · 07-19-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd

We've all been saying that here anyway.

**Iowanian** · 07-19-2011, 01:15 PM

vailpass · 07-19-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

My homesteading role model.

Demonpenz · 07-19-2011, 01:19 PM

Being an asshole dick or whatever shouldn't mean shit to yourself. I do what I got to do to be happy and serve God.

**Lzen** · 07-19-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

Smoker's entitlement pisses me the **** off. It was always like that in the restaurant industry. Smoker's were constantly going out back to take a smoke break or some shit while all the non-smokers had to keep on working.

As I've gotten older, this has shifted over into the parenting realm. We have a large group of friends, most with kids. Some of the parents still smoke when we get together socially (though they don't want their kids to know). So this group of smokers are constantly sneaking off outside to smoke cigarettes, leaving the rest of us inside to watch their ****ing kids and run cover for them when they kids come asking where their parents are. They'll disappear for 20 minutes at a time.

I flipped the hell out on them the other night. Everyone was at my house. There were about 20 kids running around inside. I'm trying to get dinner ready, and all the other ****ing adults scrammed outside to smoke. On top of that, some dumb twunt (a smoker) started preheating the oven for some shitty casserole she wanted to throw in, not realizing that my pork loin was resting in there, wrapped in foil.

I came barreling out of the house and unloaded with both barrels. "Alright, folks. I'm coooking you dinner already. I'm not babysitting your kids, too. Plus, you almost ****ed up my pork loin, and that's a crime I won't forgive."

For some reason, people were walking on eggshells around me the rest of the night.

Hulk mad!

Chief Roundup · 07-19-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

● Lives in a home that is in good repair, not crowded, and equipped with air conditioning, clothes washer and dryer, and cable or satellite TV service.

● Prepares meals in a kitchen with a refrigerator, coffee maker and microwave as well as oven and stove.

● Had enough money in the past year to meet essential needs, including adequate food and medical care. [/B]

Responding to this items in order.

Well if a person receives HUD or rents a subsidized apartment those things are required except for cable and or satellite. Cable and satellite TV being included is a way for landlords to get people to choose thier facility over others.

If you don't have a kitchen how are you going to ever make any food or keep anything to eat in your home. Having a operable kitchen saves money and is healthier than eating out every meal.

Of course they had adequate food they get food stamps. People on SS or disability don't pay for healthcare. The others just don't pay for the bills so sure they get adequate medical care.

vailpass · 07-19-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Responding to this items in order.

Well if a person receives HUD or rents a subsidized apartment those things are required except for cable and or satellite. Cable and satellite TV being included is a way for landlords to get people to choose thier facility over others.

If you don't have a kitchen how are you going to ever make any food or keep anything to eat in your home. Having a operable kitchen saves money and is healthier than eating out every meal.

Of course they had adequate food they get food stamps. People on SS or disability don't pay for healthcare. The others just don't pay for the bills so sure they get adequate medical care.

Your point is?

**loochy** · 07-19-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Responding to this items in order.

Well if a person receives HUD or rents a subsidized apartment those things are required except for cable and or satellite. Cable and satellite TV being included is a way for landlords to get people to choose thier facility over others.

If you don't have a kitchen how are you going to ever make any food or keep anything to eat in your home. Having a operable kitchen saves money and is healthier than eating out every meal.

Of course they had adequate food they get food stamps. People on SS or disability don't pay for healthcare. The others just don't pay for the bills so sure they get adequate medical care.

OK so being poor isn't so bad then, right?

Chief Roundup · 07-19-2011, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Your point is?

That that list was kind of stupid and pointless.
Because most of those things are requirements before someone receiving HUD or subsidized assistance can even rent a place.

**Iowanian** · 07-19-2011, 04:24 PM

a big pair of hairy balls that woman has.....

Gilbert Grapes' mama, as listed above just called me as soon as I walked in the door from work(in tow of 3 kids). She proceeded to introduce herself, told me that since the other guy who was there saturday unloaded their stuff and carried it upstairs, wondered if I'd just run over and carry a tv downstairs(it's one of the big heavy 42" older flatscreens)....

"No, I'm busy"....
"doing what"......
"my own stuff, working 22hrs the first 2 days of the week, watching my kids, making dinner, work, repairing my own home, community involvement, mowing our yards....."
"well..when can you..who would come and do it"
"don't know"
"you're not going to tell me who could do it? Our daughter and my husband can't do it"
"It's an old TV,and it's not my problem"
"hrmffffffffff"

Gilbert Grape's mother didn't either know, or acknowledge that I'd spent 2hrs in 100 degree heat unloading an F'ing Uhaul van truck and packing that shit upstairs.

Brock · 07-19-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

a big pair of hairy balls that woman has.....

Gilbert Grapes' mama, as listed above just called me as soon as I walked in the door from work(in tow of 3 kids). She proceeded to introduce herself, told me that since the other guy who was there saturday unloaded their stuff and carried it upstairs, wondered if I'd just run over and carry a tv downstairs(it's one of the big heavy 42" older flatscreens)....

"No, I'm busy"....
"doing what"......
"my own stuff, watching my kids, making dinner, work, repairing my own home, community involvement, mowing our yards....."
"well....who would come and do it"
"don't know"
"you're not going to tell me who could do it? Our daughter and my husband can't do it"
"It's an old TV,and it's not my problem"
"hrmffffffffff"

Gilbert Grape's mother didn't either know, or acknowledge that I'd spent 2hrs in 100 degree heat unloading an F'ing Uhaul van truck and packing that shit upstairs.

Seriously, I can't believe the gall. Bitch should be baking you a pie every day of the week.

**Iowanian** · 07-19-2011, 04:28 PM

I wouldn't eat it.

This past summer I've been "Switching weeks" mowing with one of the other neighbors, but I'm thinking very hard right now about being done.

Charity is a good thing, but holy shit the nerve of some people. They are definitely testing every last fiber in my ability to not "go Iowanian" on them.

I think the wrinkled old husband doesn't even know what he's like but deep down is getting by....maybe beaten down by that jabbathehutt, ungreatful bag of bacon grease.

Sonna bitch.

blaise · 07-19-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Seriously, I can't believe the gall. Bitch should be baking you a pie every day of the week.

She might make them, they just never make it past her table.

Fish · 07-19-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

a big pair of hairy balls that woman has.....

Gilbert Grapes' mama, as listed above just called me as soon as I walked in the door from work(in tow of 3 kids). She proceeded to introduce herself, told me that since the other guy who was there saturday unloaded their stuff and carried it upstairs, wondered if I'd just run over and carry a tv downstairs(it's one of the big heavy 42" older flatscreens)....

"No, I'm busy"....
"doing what"......
"my own stuff, working 22hrs the first 2 days of the week, watching my kids, making dinner, work, repairing my own home, community involvement, mowing our yards....."
"well..when can you..who would come and do it"
"don't know"
"you're not going to tell me who could do it? Our daughter and my husband can't do it"
"It's an old TV,and it's not my problem"
"hrmffffffffff"

Gilbert Grape's mother didn't either know, or acknowledge that I'd spent 2hrs in 100 degree heat unloading an F'ing Uhaul van truck and packing that shit upstairs.

Wow. That's the point where I'd tell her that her and her sow offspring should lose some weight so they can take care of their own shit.

07-19-2011, 07:45 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $94454	Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox: What is Poverty in the United States Today? Fascinating.. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...k-ken-mcintyre When Americans think of poverty, we tend to picture people who can’t adequately shelter, clothe, and feed themselves or their families. When the Census Bureau defines “poverty,” though, it winds up painting more than 40 million Americans — one in seven — as “poor.” Census officials continue to grossly exaggerate the numbers of the poor, creating a false picture in the public mind of widespread material deprivation, writes Heritage Foundation senior research fellow Robert Rector in a new paper. “Most news stories on poverty feature homeless families, people living in crumbling shacks, or lines of the downtrodden eating in soup kitchens,” Rector says. “The actual living conditions of America’s poor are far different from these images.” Congress is tying itself in knots figuring out how to cut spending and bring down a $14 trillion national debt. Lawmakers might well take a much closer look at the nearly a trillion dollars spent each year on welfare even though many recipients aren’t what the typical American would recognize as poor and in need of government assistance. What is poverty? Americans might well be surprised to learn from other government data that the overwhelming majority of those defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau were well-housed and adequately fed even in the recession year 2009. About 4 percent of them did temporarily become homeless. Data from the Department of Energy and other agencies show that the average poor family, as defined by Census officials: ● Lives in a home that is in good repair, not crowded, and equipped with air conditioning, clothes washer and dryer, and cable or satellite TV service. ● Prepares meals in a kitchen with a refrigerator, coffee maker and microwave as well as oven and stove. ● Enjoys two color TVs, a DVD player, VCR and — if children are there — an Xbox, PlayStation, or other video game system. ● Had enough money in the past year to meet essential needs, including adequate food and medical care.
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Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1668454	a big pair of hairy balls that woman has..... Gilbert Grapes' mama, as listed above just called me as soon as I walked in the door from work(in tow of 3 kids). She proceeded to introduce herself, told me that since the other guy who was there saturday unloaded their stuff and carried it upstairs, wondered if I'd just run over and carry a tv downstairs(it's one of the big heavy 42" older flatscreens).... "No, I'm busy".... "doing what"...... "my own stuff, working 22hrs the first 2 days of the week, watching my kids, making dinner, work, repairing my own home, community involvement, mowing our yards....." "well..when can you..who would come and do it" "don't know" "you're not going to tell me who could do it? Our daughter and my husband can't do it" "It's an old TV,and it's not my problem" "hrmffffffffff" Gilbert Grape's mother didn't either know, or acknowledge that I'd spent 2hrs in 100 degree heat unloading an F'ing Uhaul van truck and packing that shit upstairs.
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Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1668454	I wouldn't eat it. This past summer I've been "Switching weeks" mowing with one of the other neighbors, but I'm thinking very hard right now about being done. Charity is a good thing, but holy shit the nerve of some people. They are definitely testing every last fiber in my ability to not "go Iowanian" on them. I think the wrinkled old husband doesn't even know what he's like but deep down is getting by....maybe beaten down by that jabbathehutt, ungreatful bag of bacon grease. Sonna bitch.
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