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Old 07-25-2011, 02:04 PM  
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:11 PM   #121
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His win loss ratio is sick, his numbers last year as a passer were respectable and he has shown improvement as a player...but he needs to show the ability to be solid mentally if he is to lock down a starting quarterbacks job in the NFL.
It's hard to be strong mentally when your coach doesn't believe you to the extent that you put up #'s and win games and get yanked reguarly anyway. I used to work with a black guy who took Vinces side for years and we had this argument somewhat regularly. After last year I'm inclined to side with him. Young was always #2 to Collins in Fishers book even if he walked on water.

Someone mentioned Young not being mentally strong enough for Haley. One could say Vince isn't enough of a Yes Man for Haley and it would mean practically the same thing. Haley wants someone to follow orders, that's why Cassel's never going anywhere. With that said, I agree that Haley and Young could never coexist, and there's no point in bringing him in for a look.
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:12 PM   #122
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:17 PM   #123
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Someone mentioned Young not being mentally strong enough for Haley. One could say Vince isn't enough of a Yes Man for Haley and it would mean practically the same thing. Haley wants someone to follow orders, that's why Cassel's never going anywhere. With that said, I agree that Haley and Young could never coexist, and there's no point in bringing him in for a look.
No, it wouldn't be the same thing at all.
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:32 PM   #124
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:36 PM   #125
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It's hard to be strong mentally when your coach doesn't believe you to the extent that you put up #'s and win games and get yanked reguarly anyway. I used to work with a black guy who took Vinces side for years and we had this argument somewhat regularly. After last year I'm inclined to side with him. Young was always #2 to Collins in Fishers book even if he walked on water.

Someone mentioned Young not being mentally strong enough for Haley. One could say Vince isn't enough of a Yes Man for Haley and it would mean practically the same thing. Haley wants someone to follow orders, that's why Cassel's never going anywhere. With that said, I agree that Haley and Young could never coexist, and there's no point in bringing him in for a look.
Beyond stupid.
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:38 PM   #126
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:48 PM   #127
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:18 PM   #130
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No, it wouldn't be the same thing at all.
In a certain context it could. I never said it would, 'could' was the exact word I used.

If one's definition for being mentally tough enough to be QB under Haley is to run every play he says, every time, even if his instincts tell him Haley is wrong, and then taking the heat for both his own mistakes AND coaches, that qualifies as "mentally tough" to me. It certainly wouldn't be relaxing.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:22 PM   #131
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Any QB that isnt a 'yes man' for his coach needs to go sell insurance.
Not when the coach is calling stupid plays and making bad decisions. Every Hall of Fame QB that's every played has every questioned his coaching staff from time to time, some fairly often. Except maybe Staubach, ha
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:23 PM   #132
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You think we should bring him in for a look then? I really don't think him and Haley would get along.
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I know we won't sign him, I just have a gut feeling about him as having the heart of a winner.
Somebody will sign him and we will see .

I'm not even gonna say I told ya so if he pans out for another team.

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