Chiefs Why are we still using the 3-4? - Page 2

Aspengc8 · 08-29-2011, 07:46 AM

IMO we have decent personnel to run a 4-3 or any even front scheme.

DE: gilberry/Hali/Bailey
DT: dorsey/gregg/powe
MLB: dj/belcher/williams
OLB: houston/miller/sheffield

DJ can be played at OLB in a even scheme, since he is one of the better coverage LB's I have seen to date. Problem is our LB's dont have much size for a 3-4 scheme, and out of our 3 DL, none require a double team. I think gilberry/hali on the ends would let us rush the passer with 4, and use our more mobile LB's in coverage. Dorsey back to a 3 tech DT, with gregg/powe helps vs interior runs too. Most teams that dominate odd fronts have beastly DL, and linebackers that look like they lift weights. Our LB's look like they go to planet fitness.

Just a thought.

Will try in Madden 12 tonight, to verify lol.

lcarus · 08-29-2011, 10:00 AM

Yeah the 3-4 has gotten us the best out of players that were on the brink of becoming "busts". Derrick Johnson, Tamba Hali, and Glenn Dorsey are all doing great in this system. During Herm's reign of 4-3 "cover 2" terror, those 3 players were much worse off.

**BossChief** · 08-29-2011, 10:02 AM

Romeo won a championship running a 4-3 in NE before making the switch a little less than a year later...if he thought we would be better off as a 4-3, we probably would be one.

OctoberFart · 08-29-2011, 10:18 AM

Think of the 4-3 you guys could of had if you kept Allen.

Ace Gunner · 08-29-2011, 10:21 AM

The 34defense Haley runs is the same defense Parcells ran for the Giants. It's the same one Belichick ran everywhere he's gone, including with the Giants under Parcells.

That's what they prefer, they like the odds of finding players for that system compared to paying big $ for DE's in the 43 that are rarely as good as they are paid.

They like to rush 3 and drop into zone. If they can do this 10 times a game, they usually get turnovers.

Omaha · 08-29-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

Think of the 4-3 you guys could of had if you kept Allen.

"could of"

Mr. Laz · 08-29-2011, 10:54 AM

i have a better question ... why are we still seeing stupid threads bout this?

we are just now getting 3-4 personnel.

a case can be made that Hali IS a 3-4 OLB considering his success in the new system.
Houston and Sheffield ARE 3-4 OLBs.
Gregg and Power are NT's
Dorsey can play in both but he's had more success in a 3-4
DJ has had more success in a 3-4
TJax has shown a glint (cross fingers)
Bailey looks to be a 5 tech with potential

we are converted and committed to a 3-4 so just let it go.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-29-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Omaha

"could of"

That is quite common around here.

Mr. Laz · 08-29-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Omaha

"could of"

it comes from typing like you talk

In the heartland you say 'could of' or even 'coulda'

I type could of instead of could have all the time

but carry on making fun of the faider troll.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-29-2011, 11:37 AM

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

whoman69 · 08-29-2011, 12:51 PM

Is it 2009 again and nobody told me?

**Gonzo** · 08-29-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

Think of the 4-3 you guys could of had if you kept Allen.

Think of the running game you guys "could of" had if YOU kept Allen....

Mr. Laz · 08-29-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Think of the running game you guys "could of" had if YOU kept Allen....

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**Gonzo** · 08-29-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

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beach tribe · 08-29-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

Think of the 4-3 you guys could of had if you kept Allen.

At least we got Charles out of the deal. You lost your best offensive, and defensive players, and got absolutely nothing.

My God your franchise is a joke.

Reerun_KC · 08-29-2011, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

IMO we have decent personnel to run a 4-3 or any even front scheme.

DE: gilberry/Hali/Bailey
DT: dorsey/gregg/powe
MLB: dj/belcher/williams
OLB: houston/miller/sheffield

DJ can be played at OLB in a even scheme, since he is one of the better coverage LB's I have seen to date. Problem is our LB's dont have much size for a 3-4 scheme, and out of our 3 DL, none require a double team. I think gilberry/hali on the ends would let us rush the passer with 4, and use our more mobile LB's in coverage. Dorsey back to a 3 tech DT, with gregg/powe helps vs interior runs too. Most teams that dominate odd fronts have beastly DL, and linebackers that look like they lift weights. Our LB's look like they go to planet fitness.

Just a thought.

Will try in Madden 12 tonight, to verify lol.

Yeah if it works in Madden then it should work in real life...

08-29-2011, 07:46 AM
Aspengc8 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $9950632	Why are we still using the 3-4? IMO we have decent personnel to run a 4-3 or any even front scheme. DE: gilberry/Hali/Bailey DT: dorsey/gregg/powe MLB: dj/belcher/williams OLB: houston/miller/sheffield DJ can be played at OLB in a even scheme, since he is one of the better coverage LB's I have seen to date. Problem is our LB's dont have much size for a 3-4 scheme, and out of our 3 DL, none require a double team. I think gilberry/hali on the ends would let us rush the passer with 4, and use our more mobile LB's in coverage. Dorsey back to a 3 tech DT, with gregg/powe helps vs interior runs too. Most teams that dominate odd fronts have beastly DL, and linebackers that look like they lift weights. Our LB's look like they go to planet fitness. Just a thought. Will try in Madden 12 tonight, to verify lol.
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	i have a better question ... why are we still seeing stupid threads bout this? we are just now getting 3-4 personnel. a case can be made that Hali IS a 3-4 OLB considering his success in the new system. Houston and Sheffield ARE 3-4 OLBs. Gregg and Power are NT's Dorsey can play in both but he's had more success in a 3-4 DJ has had more success in a 3-4 TJax has shown a glint (cross fingers) Bailey looks to be a 5 tech with potential we are converted and committed to a 3-4 so just let it go. __________________
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