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Deberg_1990 · 09-29-2011, 12:55 PM

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/stor...t-consequences

It doesn’t necessarily matter what NBA commissioner David Stern meant when he said on Wednesday that the upcoming weekend of negotiations between players and the league would determine “whether they can either have a season or not have a season.” Maybe it was a threat, as it sure seemed to be—a grand warning that if they did not accede to a deal, players would miss out on an entire year of salary. But the league is insisting it was not a threat, so maybe it wasn’t.

It’s not really important, though, because we don’t need any pronouncements from Stern to notice that the pages are slipping away on the NBA’s calendar, and with both sides reporting on Wednesday that no progress had been made, at the very least, the beginning of the season is in jeopardy.

The sides will meet again on Friday, and considering it will take about two weeks to iron out the details of a collective bargaining agreement, it’s clear that without significant movement this weekend, the season won’t start on time on Nov. 1. During the 1998 lockout, the league started canceling regular-season games on October 13, and that timeline should hold up this time around.

Canceling the season is still an option, but it’s on the back-burner. There are some who believe that once some games are missed, owners will be willing to axe the whole season, as the NHL did in ’05. But bear in mind, losing an entire season would not just be a hit to the players. It would be a big hit to the owners, too. There is a provision in the league’s television contract that pays the league even in the event of lost games, something that surely increases the owners’ bargaining power in the early stages of a lockout. Owners will still be feeding from their deepest trough, while players miss paychecks.

There is a catch, though—if the entire season is canceled, the owners will have to return the television money, plus interest. The threat of the season being canceled can be arrived at just by looking at the calendar and noting the lack of progress the two sides have made. But there would be no point to a preemptive canceling of the season on Stern’s part.

SI.com’s Sam Amick reports that Stern has laid out a Jan. 7 drop-dead date for cancellation of the season. That was the same deadline in ’99, when a scattered and shortened 50-game season began on February 5—with very negative results. Attendance fell by 2.2 percent, television ratings fell sharply and NBA Finals ratings went from 18.7 to 11.3. That was largely because of the retirement of Michael Jordan and the breakup of the Bulls, but still, it took a long time for the NBA to recover its popularity.

The league last season regained its relevance among fans. Players have a lot at stake in the case of a canceled season. But while owners might be in a better financial position to withstand a long lockout, they saw the NBA finally climb out of its post-Jordan doldrums, and they have a lot at stake here, too.

A canceled season is still a possibility. But we’re a long way from that point.

ChiefsCountry · 09-29-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

yea, im starting to think that the NHL would work better in KC than the NBA.

I wouldn't mind either one actually. They both have their positives and negatives.

Mr. Laz · 09-29-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

They can cancel college basketball as well for all I care. I hate basketball.

So I guess won't really give a shit.

only cuz mizzou sucks

</post> · 09-29-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Kansas City is a college sports town, and before the Thunder, there wasn't an NBA team within an 8 hour drive.

I get that but what do you watch in April, May, and June? Next year will have a decent Royals team for the first time in forever, but in years past April-July would be a sports desert without the NBA.

Deberg_1990 · 09-29-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

See? They lost me a long time ago. Where did Kobe play college ball? Lebron James? Surely Lebron hasn't been in the NBA 7 years, has he?

Kobe's been in the league since 96 or 97...Lebron since 2003. Im not sure of the NBA's current draft policies.

KurtCobain · 09-29-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Kansas City is a college sports town, and before the Thunder, there wasn't an NBA team within an 8 hour drive.

Oklahoma city is closer than Chicago? I know it's only about an 8 hour drive.

PunkinDrublic · 09-29-2011, 01:57 PM

Got to finally see the Mavs when a title. Going to just assume they would have repeated. But yeah it's not as important.

CoMoChief · 09-29-2011, 01:58 PM

NCAA bball has a much bigger fanbase IMO.....fanbase will not suffer. NBA is still trying to repair it's image from the retirement of MJ.

</post> · 09-29-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

NCAA bball has a much bigger fanbase IMO.....fanbase will not suffer. NBA is still trying to repair it's image from the retirement of MJ.

Every urban population doesn't give a **** about college basketball

Frazod · 09-29-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

only cuz mizzou sucks

I know all you beakers think that, but it's not the case. The year Missouri made it to Elite 8 I think I watched about half an hour of their games, combined. I just don't like basketball. Never watched it as a kid, my parents didn't watch it, I didn't play it, nothing. I've been to three Bulls games back in the Jordan era, but nothing since. I don't think I've watched a professional game (unless it just happened to be on a bar or something) since.

**HemiEd** · 09-29-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Its amazing really how much hatred for the NBA is here.

1) Its the KU basketball effect. They think its the greatest thing ever, which it is not.
2) No local team in the state ie either KC and St. Louis.
3) Jordan effect. Fans of Jordan only, not the NBA.

1) To some of us, CBB is the best ever, winning is cool. Of course having three fairly consistently competitive teams in Kansas is pretty special. 1981, when all three were in the Sweet 16, was awesome. It just doesn't get much better.

2) I went to a couple KC Kings games, one in KC and one in Wichita as an exhibition. Wow, both places were almost empty, and I wasn't surprised when the team went to Sacramento.

3) Can't argue with that, all sports have it. Lebron kind of crapped on the fans this year after losing. He is rich, and the fans are poor. That probably didn't endear him with a lot of folks.

Mr. Laz · 09-29-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I know all you beakers think that, but it's not the case. The year Missouri made it to Elite 8 I think I watched about half an hour of their games, combined. I just don't like basketball. Never watched it as a kid, my parents didn't watch it, I didn't play it, nothing. I've been to three Bulls games back in the Jordan era, but nothing since. I don't think I've watched a professional game (unless it just happened to be on a bar or something) since.

you've been beaked

**Bearcat** · 09-29-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by

I get that but what do you watch in April, May, and June? Next year will have a decent Royals team for the first time in forever, but in years past April-July would be a sports desert without the NBA.

Something else no one around here watches: hockey.

I learned how to play in college, which gave me an appreciation for the sport, and I lived in Omaha for a year, so I attended a lot of college hockey games.

Watching the Thunder last year was the closest I've ever come to rooting for an NBA team... they're somewhat close to KC, they have a couple of former Jayhawks, and of course there's Kevin Durant. But, then watching the Heat flop around and cry reminded me why I've never gotten hooked on pro basketball.

**HemiEd** · 09-29-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Kobe's been in the league since 96 or 97...Lebron since 2003. Im not sure of the NBA's current draft policies.

Holy crap, time is flying. I figure Lebron just finished his first contract with Cleveland last year, so it must be 5 at the most. But I degress, it is the NBA, no thanks.

CoMoChief · 09-29-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by

Every urban population doesn't give a **** about college basketball

So it's a black thing?

**HemiEd** · 09-29-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain

Oklahoma city is closer than Chicago? I know it's only about an 8 hour drive.

Chicago is 530 miles, OKC is about 350?

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