Football Tim Tebow is a shitty quarterback. - Page 3

MMXcalibur · 11-17-2011, 11:36 PM

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evenfall · 11-18-2011, 05:35 AM

This board's obsession with Tebow is getting a little weird, at this point.

Quesadilla Joe · 11-18-2011, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Rodgers is one of the best running QBs in the NFL, you jackass. Not only that, he can actually make plays from the pocket and outside of it with his arm.

The only thing that Tebow does well he arguably does little to no better than Rodgers.

Good God, you're as good off having Jacquizz Rodgers at QB as Tebow. Both throw the ball equally well.

Mark Sanchez, Jimmy Clausen, and Vernon Gholston are fantastic players.

JD10367 · 11-18-2011, 07:08 AM

Okay, as Jack Webb said, "just the facts":

1.) Knowmo clearly huffs paint. Just off the top of my head, "in crunch time" I'd rather have Brady, Rodgers, Brees, P. Manning (if he was healthy), and probably Rapistberger.

2.) Tim Tebow is not "a shitty quarterback". He's not a very good passer (at least at the moment). Time will tell if he gets better at that. But being the quarterback is not just about throwing pretty passes; there are other factors as well. It's also about clock management, decision-making, your ability to scramble, your ability to win, the amount of confidence your teammates have in you... all areas where Tebow seems, for some reason, to have advantages. The buzzword is "intangibles". He seems to have 'em. Frankly, given the choice between a pure passer who can't do anything else right, or a guy like Tebow who seems to do everything else except pass the ball, I'd take the Tebow guy. You can teach someone how to throw the ball; you can't teach someone how to win, how to be cool under pressure, how to rally his teammates, etc.,. Cool is Brady driving the ball in the '01 SB and then spiking it and calmly flipping it to the ref. Cool is Joe Montana in the waning minutes of the Super Bowl, pointing out John Candy. And cool is doing jack shit all day and getting the ball back with 5 minutes to go, on your 5, and getting the winning TD pretty much by yourself. If Matt Cassel ever did that, there'd be jizz covering the midwest.

3.) Having said that, life for a running quarterback usually doesn't turn out so well. Even the supposed best-of-the-best (Dogkiller) can be figured out eventually... or, at least, beaten into submission. Running quarterbacks not only have a game you can counter (if you have the coaching brainpower and personnel), but they get killed physically. If he doesn't learn to throw the ball without taking hits, his career will last only a few seasons. And better teams WILL figure it out. What he pulled against the Jets may not fly against the Steelers or Ravens... or even against the Patriots, or another team that can simply outscore Denver. If the Broncos are down 35-7 by the 4th, Tebow's heroics won't help. It's only good for one score, apparently.

Bottom line: as the sole starting quarterback on a not-great team, Tebow's magic will run out. But if given time to learn how to throw properly, and used as a change-of-pace QB in the meantime until he learns how to throw, there's nothing wrong with him. And, on a better team, they might be able to use him as a starter and overcome his passing shortcomings. I'd love to have him back up Brady, personally.

I'm not really sure why there's such a backlash against Tebow's religion. I mean, there are plenty of athletes who are religious. If, in a postgame, I hear one more player "thank Jesus for blessing me with the physical skills" blah blah blah, I'll shoot someone. Why does Tebow get such flak? Is it, weirdly enough, because he's white? I think so, although I can't figure out why. He seems like a nice enough guy, and--as was pointed out elsewhere--if he was Jewish we wouldn't be making Hanukkah jokes, would we? Why is the fact that he's such a religious Christian rub people the wrong way? People picking on him all the time, plus the fact that people pick on his inability to throw the ball, make me actually root for him more and more with each win, despite my Bronco hatred. I'd be fine if the Broncos lose because Tebow plays great and one of his teammates makes a bonehead turnover. And I'm atheist/agnostic.

Mr. Plow · 11-18-2011, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

You would rather have Tim Tebow than Aaron Rodgers? Really?

He also said that Tebow should have been the #1 pick in the draft.

BoneKrusher · 11-18-2011, 07:35 AM

this thread speaks volumes on how good Matt Cassel really is.

FringeNC · 11-18-2011, 07:43 AM

Winning games against good teams is all about being able to throw the ball. The Broncos can't do that, and the Chiefs can't either (at least with Cassel).

durtyrute · 11-18-2011, 07:58 AM

THe Donks will have a better record than we will. FML

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-18-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

It's those first three quarters that are going to kill the Donkeys when they face offenses that can actaully score.

Those last minute heroics will be nothing more than garbage time points then.

Yep, Rodgers would have had 35 plus on the board by then (like he did earlier against the Donkeys) and that last minute garbage time drive would be for naught. Like I said earlier in the week, if they win the game it's because Sanchez is more inept and that pick 6 he threw was a backbreaker.

Radar Chief · 11-18-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute

THe Donks will have a better record than we will. FML

Which isn't saying much.
A lot of other teams will also.

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-18-2011, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Rodgers is a beast. But Tebow is money with the game on the line. You can have excellent coverage and a passrush and there isn't anything Rodgers can do about it, but it doesn't matter what you do on defense against Tebow... one way or another Tebow is going to make the plays to win the game.

Rodgers runs an offense that consistently puts up 30 plus a game, Tebow can't even crack 20. I guess God's Hand is causing all opposing QB's to out suck him or some shit.

BigCatDaddy · 11-18-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie

Vince Young all over again

That was my first thought to. He reminds me a lot of Vince in his rookie year.

Radar Chief · 11-18-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Rodgers is one of the best running QBs in the NFL, you jackass. Not only that, he can actually make plays from the pocket and outside of it with his arm.

The only thing that Tebow does well he arguably does little to no better than Rodgers.

Good God, you're as good off having Jacquizz Rodgers at QB as Tebow. Both throw the ball equally well.

While I agree with the rest of your post you’re not going to see Rodgers breaking arm tackles, stiff arming line backers and dropping a shoulder into a safety for extra yards. Granted that’s partially because he doesn’t have to but it’s also because Tebow isn’t just a little bit better at running, he’s a lot better. Obviously if he doesn’t learn to throw he’ll have a three season career, maybe, but give the man his due.
In the meantime, I’m just amazed that NFL teams are actually being beaten by Jake Plummer’s less talented clone.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 11-18-2011, 08:16 AM

I am of the firm belief that knowmo is a sock. Nobody is that stupid.

**bevischief** · 11-18-2011, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

this thread speaks volumes on how good Matt Cassel really is.

Bacillus Anthracis · 11-18-2011, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Rodgers runs an offense that consistently puts up 30 plus a game, Tebow can't even crack 20. I guess God's Hand is causing all opposing QB's to out suck him or some shit.

They put up 38 against the Raiders.

I'm gonna go step in front of a bus now.

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JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	Okay, as Jack Webb said, "just the facts": 1.) Knowmo clearly huffs paint. Just off the top of my head, "in crunch time" I'd rather have Brady, Rodgers, Brees, P. Manning (if he was healthy), and probably Rapistberger. 2.) Tim Tebow is not "a shitty quarterback". He's not a very good passer (at least at the moment). Time will tell if he gets better at that. But being the quarterback is not just about throwing pretty passes; there are other factors as well. It's also about clock management, decision-making, your ability to scramble, your ability to win, the amount of confidence your teammates have in you... all areas where Tebow seems, for some reason, to have advantages. The buzzword is "intangibles". He seems to have 'em. Frankly, given the choice between a pure passer who can't do anything else right, or a guy like Tebow who seems to do everything else except pass the ball, I'd take the Tebow guy. You can teach someone how to throw the ball; you can't teach someone how to win, how to be cool under pressure, how to rally his teammates, etc.,. Cool is Brady driving the ball in the '01 SB and then spiking it and calmly flipping it to the ref. Cool is Joe Montana in the waning minutes of the Super Bowl, pointing out John Candy. And cool is doing jack shit all day and getting the ball back with 5 minutes to go, on your 5, and getting the winning TD pretty much by yourself. If Matt Cassel ever did that, there'd be jizz covering the midwest. 3.) Having said that, life for a running quarterback usually doesn't turn out so well. Even the supposed best-of-the-best (Dogkiller) can be figured out eventually... or, at least, beaten into submission. Running quarterbacks not only have a game you can counter (if you have the coaching brainpower and personnel), but they get killed physically. If he doesn't learn to throw the ball without taking hits, his career will last only a few seasons. And better teams WILL figure it out. What he pulled against the Jets may not fly against the Steelers or Ravens... or even against the Patriots, or another team that can simply outscore Denver. If the Broncos are down 35-7 by the 4th, Tebow's heroics won't help. It's only good for one score, apparently. Bottom line: as the sole starting quarterback on a not-great team, Tebow's magic will run out. But if given time to learn how to throw properly, and used as a change-of-pace QB in the meantime until he learns how to throw, there's nothing wrong with him. And, on a better team, they might be able to use him as a starter and overcome his passing shortcomings. I'd love to have him back up Brady, personally. I'm not really sure why there's such a backlash against Tebow's religion. I mean, there are plenty of athletes who are religious. If, in a postgame, I hear one more player "thank Jesus for blessing me with the physical skills" blah blah blah, I'll shoot someone. Why does Tebow get such flak? Is it, weirdly enough, because he's white? I think so, although I can't figure out why. He seems like a nice enough guy, and--as was pointed out elsewhere--if he was Jewish we wouldn't be making Hanukkah jokes, would we? Why is the fact that he's such a religious Christian rub people the wrong way? People picking on him all the time, plus the fact that people pick on his inability to throw the ball, make me actually root for him more and more with each win, despite my Bronco hatred. I'd be fine if the Broncos lose because Tebow plays great and one of his teammates makes a bonehead turnover. And I'm atheist/agnostic.
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