Chiefs KC/NE: Chiefs weren't bad (and, no, I'm not reeruned) - Page 5

JD10367 · 11-21-2011, 11:00 PM

I know it looked bad on TV. And on the scoreboard. But from inside the stadium it looked different. The Chiefs D did a good job pressuring the Pats in the first half. They had two blown plays against Gronk and he made them pay. On offense, Palko looked much better than Cassel; considering the circumstances (thrown into starting @ NE on MNF) he looked decent. He had two tipped-ball INTs that could've been caught, and one Casselish INT in the EZ. I said the Chiefs had to play perfect, which they didn't, but the story of this game was basically two passes to Gronk, a PR by Edelman, and two tipped INTs.

kcxiv · 11-22-2011, 12:14 AM

lol sad thing is Palko has better pocket presence then cassel, the ball looks better when he throws it short yardage, but the deep ball looks just as shitty as cassel. lol

Either way, its more of the same. Palko shouldnt be starting, it has to be the rookie, its like seriously why not. lol I dont see how starting Palko is better then starting Stanzi. If palko was in his first or 2nd year, then id be like ok, but he's not.

**Reaper16** · 11-22-2011, 12:15 AM

Troll.

BushyTheBeaver · 11-22-2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

You fail as well. It's "Belichick".

shirtsleeve · 11-22-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BushyTheBeaver

If you are going to use that logic, then even trying to run the ball was "running up the score." Because pass or run, either way the Patriots were trying to score,. And you object to that. That's really your point isn't it?

Not really. When a team runs straight at a D who is stacked against the run, its up to the D to out execute th O, and prevent the score. its an open book exam with no time limit. Passing in that situation is to test from a different book.

Brock · 11-22-2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

JFC

Bill Maas
Way to ho roomie! Great job by you Palko. You just secured an NFL ROSTER for as long as you want. You were calm , cool , confident, as I always knew you would be. I have witnessed your dedication. You have earned this. The future is yours.
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WTF

BushyTheBeaver · 11-22-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shirtsleeve

Not really. When a team runs straight at a D who is stacked against the run, its up to the D to out execute th O, and prevent the score. its an open book exam with no time limit. Passing in that situation is to test from a different book.

So its unfair to pass in goal line situations? WTF is is your point? Outside of you're pissed that the Chiefs lost, I truly can't figure out what it is? Were you picked on as a child? Do you think that in war our #1 obligation is to be sensitive to our enemy's needs and wants? Help me out here.

Hammock Parties · 11-22-2011, 12:38 AM

Bill Maas is a ****ing reerun who took too many hits to the head.

shirtsleeve · 11-22-2011, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BushyTheBeaver

So its unfair to pass in goal line situations? WTF is is your point? Outside of you're pissed that the Chiefs lost, I truly can't figure out what it is? Were you picked on as a child? Do you think that in war our #1 obligation is to be sensitive to our enemy's needs and wants? Help me out here.

Bushy! I'm a Pats fan...and someone you know...

No Im not pissed. I am pointing out that to run the ball is to give the D every opportunity to stop it.

Halfcan · 11-22-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

The Chiefs can be summed up with their decision to not go for it on 4th and 6inches on NE's 36 yard line in the first.

Gotta take the delay of game, in that situation, to give your punter some room to work!

Exactly but then you try a stoopid fake kick off-LOL WTF-Haley is the worst coach I have ever seen-if he was a little league coach-parents would be pulling their kids off the team.

shirtsleeve · 11-22-2011, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BushyTheBeaver

I know mon. I 'member you from the planet. thumb: But I disagree with you on this point. A) there are passes that are indistinguishable from runs, and these include 3rd and 4th and goal situations. Passing is not "magic."

It was the lack of a stripper pole that threw you off, I know...

I guess here we differ.

Halfcan · 11-22-2011, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

I know it looked bad on TV. And on the scoreboard. But from inside the stadium it looked different. The Chiefs D did a good job pressuring the Pats in the first half. They had two blown plays against Gronk and he made them pay. On offense, Palko looked much better than Cassel; considering the circumstances (thrown into starting @ NE on MNF) he looked decent. He had two tipped-ball INTs that could've been caught, and one Casselish INT in the EZ. I said the Chiefs had to play perfect, which they didn't, but the story of this game was basically two passes to Gronk, a PR by Edelman, and two tipped INTs.

The last INT was not a tipped ball-it was a lame duck pass thrown in triple coverage.

Why is ****o even on our team-he is horrible. Hell bring Ryan Leaf out of retirement-he would throw better.

crazycoffey · 11-22-2011, 02:19 AM

I can see the homer lights a bit, yeah we came in strong, and all game had some decent defensive stands, holding the mighty bratriots to 3 and outs. And yes palko looked better than cassel more than he looked as bad as cassel. we went in at halftime respectfully and came out a high school drama team that couldn't play football.

At the end of the day, we were beaten. And it sucks to see it. Even though I didn't really expect us to beat NE and I let the first half get my hopes up, and the thought of all our players playing would field a better team, I'm just tired of seeing us lose....

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-22-2011, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

I know it looked bad on TV. And on the scoreboard. But from inside the stadium it looked different. The Chiefs D did a good job pressuring the Pats in the first half. They had two blown plays against Gronk and he made them pay. On offense, Palko looked much better than Cassel; considering the circumstances (thrown into starting @ NE on MNF) he looked decent. He had two tipped-ball INTs that could've been caught, and one Casselish INT in the EZ. I said the Chiefs had to play perfect, which they didn't, but the story of this game was basically two passes to Gronk, a PR by Edelman, and two tipped INTs.

Tipped passes? That were well behind the WR's. Palko had more help that Cassel gets. The Chiefs were decisive in play calling, got in and out of the huddle quickly and got up to the line and snapped the ball.

Palko was snapping the ball at about the same time that Cassel was finally getting the playcall.

Cassel isn't 'elite'...but he is at least average. Cassel hasn't been given the kind of coaching support and freedom that Palko was last night. Palko was allowed to just turn it loose with no expectations.

Cassel is a much better QB.

As far as the defense goes..... they hung in there for a while. But, as the emotion drained out and the offense continued to sputter, their hearts just weren't in it.

htismaqe · 11-22-2011, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Tipped passes? That were well behind the WR's. Palko had more help that Cassel gets. The Chiefs were decisive in play calling, got in and out of the huddle quickly and got up to the line and snapped the ball.

BS. They got in and out of the huddle quickly BECAUSE OF PALKO. He was hustling into and out of the huddle on every play, at least until they got the punt return to go up 27-3.

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Palko was snapping the ball at about the same time that Cassel was finally getting the playcall.

Yep, because Palko understood the needed tempo. Cassel doesn't.

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Cassel isn't 'elite'...but he is at least average. Cassel hasn't been given the kind of coaching support and freedom that Palko was last night. Palko was allowed to just turn it loose with no expectations.

BS. BS. BS. Cassel has been allowed to be the starter for nearly 3 years after repeatedly proving he doesn't deserve it. That's not just "support" that's BABYING. They done everything they can to help Cassel, he's just a lost cause.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-22-2011, 07:31 AM

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Those tipped balls were the result of inaccurate passes. Palko looked like absolute shit.

And Pioli is a ****ing lost sapling who is dying because of his distance from the mother-hooded tree.

It's just hilarious how Pioli doesn't want to put his own stamp on anything. It's all recycled second hand BB nonsense. Dimitroff actually formulated his own ideas and isn't some dummy sitting on BB's lap, which is why the Falcons compete every year.

11-21-2011, 11:00 PM
JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	KC/NE: Chiefs weren't bad (and, no, I'm not reeruned) I know it looked bad on TV. And on the scoreboard. But from inside the stadium it looked different. The Chiefs D did a good job pressuring the Pats in the first half. They had two blown plays against Gronk and he made them pay. On offense, Palko looked much better than Cassel; considering the circumstances (thrown into starting @ NE on MNF) he looked decent. He had two tipped-ball INTs that could've been caught, and one Casselish INT in the EZ. I said the Chiefs had to play perfect, which they didn't, but the story of this game was basically two passes to Gronk, a PR by Edelman, and two tipped INTs.
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kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8697996	lol sad thing is Palko has better pocket presence then cassel, the ball looks better when he throws it short yardage, but the deep ball looks just as shitty as cassel. lol Either way, its more of the same. Palko shouldnt be starting, it has to be the rookie, its like seriously why not. lol I dont see how starting Palko is better then starting Stanzi. If palko was in his first or 2nd year, then id be like ok, but he's not.
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11-22-2011, 02:19 AM	#72
crazycoffey .......... Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $4147901	I can see the homer lights a bit, yeah we came in strong, and all game had some decent defensive stands, holding the mighty bratriots to 3 and outs. And yes palko looked better than cassel more than he looked as bad as cassel. we went in at halftime respectfully and came out a high school drama team that couldn't play football. At the end of the day, we were beaten. And it sucks to see it. Even though I didn't really expect us to beat NE and I let the first half get my hopes up, and the thought of all our players playing would field a better team, I'm just tired of seeing us lose....
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