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Old 11-22-2011, 12:15 AM  
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I've finally changed my mind about Todd Haley
Ignoring his unimpressive W/L record as a head coach, it was apparent after tonight that the idiot has learned absolutely NOTHING about being a head coach in the NFL.

He knows nothing about gameday decisions. He goes for it on 4th down at times when the reward isn't worth the risks, and then turns into Herm's vagina when he should (like tonight in the first quarter).

Hiring Bill Muir was a ****ing shitfest.

Not replacing Lilja OR Weigmann in the past couple of games has been giving our shitty QBs no time to throw whatsoever.

Not figuring out how to stop Tim ****ing Tebow by simply PLAYING THE GODDAMN RUN.

Putting your team in the hands of a garbage player that not even amateur leagues wanted over a QB who could actually be better than feces

And there are so many more.

He's been at this position for three goddamn years, people. Most coaches, if they're any good, start to show flashes of brilliance by their 2nd year. In their 3rd year, they at the very least field a competitive team.

He's good at coaching and player development in the offseason? Newsflash: EVERY coach can find diamonds in the rough. Even Herm had a bunch.

Cassel is the first guy who needs to go. But Haley is a pretty ****ing close second. I'll be pretty pissed if we keep this jackass around next year.
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:11 AM   #121
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:13 AM   #122
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politicians do it all the time

"i'm leaving to spend more time with my family..."
Haley was upset that Weis had a "wide stance" when using the stall next to him.
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:13 AM   #123
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Not really. Never said it was.
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:53 AM   #124
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I hated the Haley hire at the time. He's done some things to win me over.

However, like I said in the coaching thread I started a few weeks back, he appears to be in over his head as a HC. Perhaps with some quality veteran coordinators that are capable of guiding Haley, he can succeed right now.

I think the truly great coaches have gone over game time scenarios so many times on paper, in their head, and in practice that making the right decision becomes instinct. Taking last night's game as an example, the choice to not go for it on 4th and short in NE territory, followed by going for an onside kick. The guys that truly understand what they want to do know to choose that 4th down chance in lieu of attempting an onside that was clearly planned.

I wouldn't be surprised if Haley becomes a good HC somewhere down the line, but he doesn't have a HC mindset yet.
That's the thing. You'd think he'd show SOME progress in three years.

He hasn't. What has he improved upon as a coach? Nothing. He still makes idiot decisions on gameday (just like Herm). He still depends on the offseason to look good (just like Herm). And he sounds like a babbling idiot at press conferences (just like Herm).

Guys, Haley IS Herm. They're the same goddamn coach.
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:54 AM   #125
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just heard a stat.
Chiefs have beaten 3 teams with winning records under the Pioli/Haley regime; and in each one of them there was a return for a touchdown (I think I heard that part right).

sad.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:26 AM   #126
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I have been walking the fence on him since the beginning of the year but I am on board now. Haley needs to go.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:32 AM   #127
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saying that Weis took a 5 million dollar pay cut to go work with his son is JUST as speculative ... if not more so.

This son stuff at florida is just something people say to try and make themselves feel better about Haley.
It's not like Weis doesn't have money. It wouldn't be unheard of for Weis to quit and go work with his son. The guy values family more than anything.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:39 AM   #128
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That's the thing. You'd think he'd show SOME progress in three years.

He hasn't. What has he improved upon as a coach? Nothing. He still makes idiot decisions on gameday (just like Herm). He still depends on the offseason to look good (just like Herm). And he sounds like a babbling idiot at press conferences (just like Herm).

Guys, Haley IS Herm. They're the same goddamn coach.
BS.... Haley is an angry white dude. HUGE difference...
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:48 AM   #129
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I think that if Haley had ONE competent quarterback on the team, most of us would have a different opinion of him.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:51 AM   #130
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I think that if Haley had ONE competent quarterback on the team, most of us would have a different opinion of him.
It's up to him to insist that he gets one.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:57 AM   #131
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I think that if Haley had ONE competent quarterback on the team, most of us would have a different opinion of him.
I could not agree more, Mr. Dartgod. So, I'm going into max-agreement mode.

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Old 11-22-2011, 12:04 PM   #132
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It's up to him to insist that he gets one.
He should have insisted on one in 2009 when he got here.

He won't get the chance to decide on the next one and I can't say I'm too sorry about that...
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:23 PM   #133
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Ignoring his unimpressive W/L record as a head coach, it was apparent after tonight that the idiot has learned absolutely NOTHING about being a head coach in the NFL.

He knows nothing about gameday decisions. He goes for it on 4th down at times when the reward isn't worth the risks, and then turns into Herm's vagina when he should (like tonight in the first quarter).

Hiring Bill Muir was a ****ing shitfest.

Not replacing Lilja OR Weigmann in the past couple of games has been giving our shitty QBs no time to throw whatsoever.

Not figuring out how to stop Tim ****ing Tebow by simply PLAYING THE GODDAMN RUN.

Putting your team in the hands of a garbage player that not even amateur leagues wanted over a QB who could actually be better than feces

And there are so many more.

He's been at this position for three goddamn years, people. Most coaches, if they're any good, start to show flashes of brilliance by their 2nd year. In their 3rd year, they at the very least field a competitive team.

He's good at coaching and player development in the offseason? Newsflash: EVERY coach can find diamonds in the rough. Even Herm had a bunch.

Cassel is the first guy who needs to go. But Haley is a pretty ****ing close second. I'll be pretty pissed if we keep this jackass around next year.
I'm with you on this one. I have been a huge Haley supporter but he just continues to make head-scratching decisions that an NFL coach should not make. Why do you punt on 4th and inches from inside the 40 at New England when the season is on the line? Why do you then proceed to kick an onside kick? Completely unacceptable levels of reerunation last night.
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:24 PM   #134
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It's up to him to insist that he gets one.
Do you really think he had the power? Doesn't it seem pretty clear that Pioli was hell-bent on doing things his way, given that they are built in the exact model of the Patriots of old?

This isn't like Thomas Dimitroff, who built the scheme around Mike Smith. This is about Pioli forcing pieces of the puzzle onto Haley. Remember we heard rumors that Weis was never high on Cassel? How much more can you ask of your coaches if two bullheaded guys can't convince the GM to change his mind?
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