Chiefs I owe Kyle Orton an apology... - Page 2

htismaqe · 12-18-2011, 03:42 PM

and quite a few people here should be doling them out as well...

Leonard Pope? Big catches. Barry Richardson? Nice job.

Same cast of characters, same playcalling (McCluster up the middle, anyone?)...

Yet Orton has 300 yards passing in a game where we led the entire way.

Yeah, I wanted to see Stanzi play and I still do.

But thank you Kyle Orton for making it ABUNDANTLY clear how much of a waste Matt Cassel is...

Rams Fan · 12-18-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

So do I. I have never liked him and was pretty peeved when they picked him up. Great first game. Let's see if he can overcome his 'moody' reputation and become a good consistent solid QB which has eluded him to date. I remain skeptical but for today, I'm convinced.

Let's see if you'll realize that Haley wasn't the big problem.

**007** · 12-18-2011, 03:49 PM

we were down 7-6

tk13 · 12-18-2011, 03:50 PM

Orton can sling it around. I forget the exact stat... but when we claimed him they had a stat on ESPN about how Orton was literally one of the league's top QBs throwing beyond 15 yards.

The flipside is he forces things sometimes, and he struggles in the red zone sometimes as well. But he absolutely can make all the NFL throws, and I'm not sure he's ever played with a group of WRs this talented.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-18-2011, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Hence, why I stated that signing Orton could signal the end of the Cassel era in KC.

Shocker, TW tries to make another thread about his pretend genius.

You're right 99 times out of 100. Congrats on that 1%

Rams Fan · 12-18-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Shocker, TW tries to make another thread about his pretend genius.

You're right 99 times out of 100. Congrats on that 1%

He is the 1%.

milkman · 12-18-2011, 03:53 PM

What we saw today is that even just a mediocre QB who can make reads and deliver the ball accurately and on time, and whose arm strength has to be respected by the defense, can improve the play of those around him.

Except in short yardage situations, the OL opened holes for the running game, and in pass protect, Orton had all day to throw.

And these receivers caught damn near everything.

Imagine what it would be like with a better than mediocre QB.

memyselfI · 12-18-2011, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan

Let's see if you'll realize that Haley wasn't the big problem.

He was the big problem. He was NOT, however, the ONLY problem.

teedubya · 12-18-2011, 03:53 PM

Orton can stay in KC as long as he wants, IMO. Remember this... he is playing with a ****ed up throwing hand!

I was very impressed with him. Great game. It is only ONE game, but I was NEVER this encouraged with Casshole.

SenselessChiefsFan · 12-18-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

and quite a few people here should be doling them out as well...

Leonard Pope? Big catches. Barry Richardson? Nice job.

Same cast of characters, same playcalling (McCluster up the middle, anyone?)...

Yet Orton has 300 yards passing in a game where we led the entire way.

Yeah, I wanted to see Stanzi play and I still do.

But thank you Kyle Orton for making it ABUNDANTLY clear how much of a waste Matt Cassel is...

Of course. Same everything. I mean, other than the head coach, but that made no difference.

I will say that Orton played well. And, I am glad the Chiefs have more options at QB going into next year.

But, to say the situation is the same is foolish.

Rams Fan · 12-18-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

He was the big problem. He was NOT, however, the ONLY problem.

Haley's a ****ing coach. He can only do so much with the talent he is given. He isn't Tim Tebow who can part the red ****ing sea.

Pioli didn't supply him with a QB capable of winning consistently in the NFL.

mnchiefsguy · 12-18-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

What pisses me off is Haley running Palko out there for 4 games out of spite.

Amen brother. If Orton plays, we beat the Steelers, and who knows what else happens from there? Haley completely ****ed the entire season beyond all hope with his playing of Palko.

Three7s · 12-18-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

What we saw today is that even just a mediocre QB who can make reads and deliver the ball accurately and on time, and whose arm strength has to be respected by the defense, can improve the play of those around him.

Except in short yardage situations, the OL opened holes for the running game, and in pass protect, Orton had all day to throw.

And these receivers caught damn near everything.

Imagine what it would be like with a better than mediocre QB.

So, basically, Orton was similar to Trent Green?

**dirk digler** · 12-18-2011, 03:57 PM

Orton played a great game no doubt but let's remember they were playing one if not the worst D in the NFL. Let's see what he does the next couple of weeks.

FringeNC · 12-18-2011, 03:57 PM

After watching a competent QB like Orton, not only is Cassel not a legit starter, he isn't even a good backup QB.

htismaqe · 12-18-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

He was the big problem. He was NOT, however, the ONLY problem.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. No surprise.

12-18-2011, 03:42 PM
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8089900	I owe Kyle Orton an apology... and quite a few people here should be doling them out as well... Leonard Pope? Big catches. Barry Richardson? Nice job. Same cast of characters, same playcalling (McCluster up the middle, anyone?)... Yet Orton has 300 yards passing in a game where we led the entire way. Yeah, I wanted to see Stanzi play and I still do. But thank you Kyle Orton for making it ABUNDANTLY clear how much of a waste Matt Cassel is...
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1947500	Orton can sling it around. I forget the exact stat... but when we claimed him they had a stat on ESPN about how Orton was literally one of the league's top QBs throwing beyond 15 yards. The flipside is he forces things sometimes, and he struggles in the red zone sometimes as well. But he absolutely can make all the NFL throws, and I'm not sure he's ever played with a group of WRs this talented.
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	What we saw today is that even just a mediocre QB who can make reads and deliver the ball accurately and on time, and whose arm strength has to be respected by the defense, can improve the play of those around him. Except in short yardage situations, the OL opened holes for the running game, and in pass protect, Orton had all day to throw. And these receivers caught damn near everything. Imagine what it would be like with a better than mediocre QB. __________________
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teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $8993042	Orton can stay in KC as long as he wants, IMO. Remember this... he is playing with a ****ed up throwing hand! I was very impressed with him. Great game. It is only ONE game, but I was NEVER this encouraged with Casshole.
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dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $94644	Orton played a great game no doubt but let's remember they were playing one if not the worst D in the NFL. Let's see what he does the next couple of weeks.
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FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1803986	After watching a competent QB like Orton, not only is Cassel not a legit starter, he isn't even a good backup QB.
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