Chiefs what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk? - Page 16

wutamess · 12-20-2011, 08:30 AM

OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me.

I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid.

I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton.

I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!

**the Talking Can** · 12-21-2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

No idea who "Carl Peterson" is.

Eli Manning is NOT an "elite" or "great" QB. The season they won the Super Bowl, he had a passer rating of 73.9. His completion rate was only 56.1%. He averaged only 6.3 Yards Per Attempt. That's been Eli for most of his career - good but definitely NOT "great." Good enough to allow his team to win.

you don't know who Carl Peterson is?

wtf??

and manning is in fact an Elite QB....he's also a first round QB who won a superbowl by playing great in the playoffs

and you are ****ing clueless...as are most Chiefs fans when it comes to QBs

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-21-2011, 09:13 AM

He's not a Chiefs fan...just an Orton fanboy it appears.

wutamess · 12-21-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I assume you are being serious.

Best pure passer and decision maker based on 1 game?? I guess you crowned his ass already.

I saw someone Sunday that could make all the throws accurately. Trent Green had a Cassle arm which is why he relied on Priest for dumpoffs so much. Rarely he went down the field unless it was to TG or 10 yard outs to EK.
As far as the Chiefs go... CROWN HIS ASS! HE WAS, WHO I THOUGHT HE WAS!

**the Talking Can** · 12-21-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

I saw someone Sunday that could make all the throws accurately. Trent Green had a Cassle arm which is why he relied on Priest for dumpoffs so much. Rarely he went down the field unless it was to TG.
As far as the Chiefs go... CROWN HIS ASS! HE WAS, WHO I THOUGHT HE WAS!

huh?

Saunders offense lived on intermediate routes for WRs...what in the hell are you talking about...it was a vertical offense unlike this sideline/bubble screen crap we run now

**the Talking Can** · 12-21-2011, 09:22 AM

Green put up 3 straight 4000 yard seasons as a chief (top was 4500 yards), followed by two 3700 yard seasons...he had 5 straight seasons with 60+ completion percentages...4 straight seasons with a QB rating of 90+

Orton and Cassel can't hold his rather large ****ing jock

Beef Supreme · 12-21-2011, 09:28 AM

Thank you. I get tired of people who didn't watch the Chiefs or were too young to remember saying how average Trent Green was. He was a ****ing stud.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-21-2011, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess

I saw someone Sunday that could make all the throws accurately. Trent Green had a Cassle arm which is why he relied on Priest for dumpoffs so much. Rarely he went down the field unless it was to TG or 10 yard outs to EK.
As far as the Chiefs go... CROWN HIS ASS! HE WAS, WHO I THOUGHT HE WAS!

This may be one of the most inaccurate posts in CP history.

patteeu · 12-21-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

Thank you. I get tired of people who didn't watch the Chiefs or were too young to remember saying how average Trent Green was. He was a ****ing stud.

Trent Green was surrounded by the best offensive talent the Chiefs have had in 40 years. Willie Roaf, Priest Holmes, Will Shields, and Tony G, among others, sure help make a QB look good.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-21-2011, 09:37 AM

I'm going to compare the 3 QB's to the musclemen from that credit score commercial...

Green is the 870 score guy
Orton represents the 750
Cassel is that runt dude with the 400 score

Chiefnj2 · 12-21-2011, 09:42 AM

I honestly love threads like this, because it identifies people that I know I shouldn't waste my time debating with. I know Denny is 100% happy with retread QBs and he is afraid to take a chance drafting a young QB because he's happy with the last 40 years.

I know wutamess is going to be a knee-jerk reaction kid. 1 good game by Cutler (no TD passes and stalling in the redzone) outweighs several years of really good QB play by Green. No point debating anything.

whosyou · 12-21-2011, 09:45 AM

Trent green was great but he never had a season as good as Cassel's best 27 td 7 ints

**the Talking Can** · 12-21-2011, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whosyou

Trent green was great but he never had a season as good as Cassel's best 27 td 7 ints

throw yourself off a high building

Beef Supreme · 12-21-2011, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

Trent Green was surrounded by the best offensive talent the Chiefs have had in 40 years. Willie Roaf, Priest Holmes, Will Shields, and Tony G, among others, sure help make a QB look good.

Hey waddya know, it takes more than one guy to make a good football team.

Rasputin · 12-21-2011, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny

No idea who "Carl Peterson" is.
Eli Manning is NOT an "elite" or "great" QB. The season they won the Super Bowl, he had a passer rating of 73.9. His completion rate was only 56.1%. He averaged only 6.3 Yards Per Attempt. That's been Eli for most of his career - good but definitely NOT "great." Good enough to allow his team to win.

You don't know who Carl Peterson is? AKA the Prince of Darkness, Satan, Beelzebub, Devil, The Evil One, The Hooven Cloof, Pocker, Serpent, Father of Lies, Lucifer, King Carl, The Deceiver, The Antichrist, Abadden, Lord of the Flies, His Satanic Majesty, Mr. Scratch, Old Gooseberry, Belial, and the enemy of God and humankind.

You never heard of him?

whosyou · 12-21-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

throw yourself off a high building

Made of weed? Seriously, Cassel had a magical season last year. If he had the o line and run game Green had, we'd of beat Baltimore last year in the playoffs.

12-20-2011, 08:30 AM
wutamess MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lee's Summit Casino cash: $4711637	what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk? OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me. I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid. I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton. I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!
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12-21-2011, 09:13 AM	#227
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12-21-2011, 09:22 AM	#230
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9172208	Green put up 3 straight 4000 yard seasons as a chief (top was 4500 yards), followed by two 3700 yard seasons...he had 5 straight seasons with 60+ completion percentages...4 straight seasons with a QB rating of 90+ Orton and Cassel can't hold his rather large **ing jock __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"**
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12-21-2011, 09:28 AM	#231
Beef Supreme MVP Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $10019560	Thank you. I get tired of people who didn't watch the Chiefs or were too young to remember saying how average Trent Green was. He was a ****ing stud.
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12-21-2011, 09:37 AM	#234
Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $178880	I'm going to compare the 3 QB's to the musclemen from that credit score commercial... Green is the 870 score guy Orton represents the 750 Cassel is that runt dude with the 400 score
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12-21-2011, 09:42 AM	#235
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	I honestly love threads like this, because it identifies people that I know I shouldn't waste my time debating with. I know Denny is 100% happy with retread QBs and he is afraid to take a chance drafting a young QB because he's happy with the last 40 years. I know wutamess is going to be a knee-jerk reaction kid. 1 good game by Cutler (no TD passes and stalling in the redzone) outweighs several years of really good QB play by Green. No point debating anything. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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12-21-2011, 09:45 AM	#236
whosyou Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Western world Casino cash: $10004900	Trent green was great but he never had a season as good as Cassel's best 27 td 7 ints
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