Chiefs Franchise Tag Carr, Bowe or Orton?

**petegz28** · 01-04-2012, 05:55 PM

So you pretty much have to franchise Carr if you can't get a deal worked out. Otherwise dude leaves to get paid and we get nothing out of it. This was a little shortsighted on Pioli's part.

there is a scenario of signing both Carr and Bowe and franchising Orton but again you have to have Carr signed.

So what would you do?

The Dawg · 01-04-2012, 05:57 PM

We have so much cap room... there is no reason we can't sign all 3 guys if we really want them back.Though if it comes down to it I say Franchise Bowe and go after Carlos Rogers in FA if for some reason we do lose Carr.

vailpass · 01-04-2012, 05:57 PM

Franchise Orton?

Chiefnj2 · 01-04-2012, 05:58 PM

Orton sucks, why would you even consider tagging him?

Deberg_1990 · 01-04-2012, 05:58 PM

I'm not convinced yet they even try to resign Orton.

**DeezNutz** · 01-04-2012, 05:58 PM

Orton. Because if Cassel goes down, we need to ensure that we have another overpaid backup to accentuate the problem.

**petegz28** · 01-04-2012, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Orton sucks, why would you even consider tagging him?

So you can cut Cassel and keep Orton from walking for a long term deal?

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-04-2012, 05:59 PM

WTF IS GOING ON?

Okie_Apparition · 01-04-2012, 05:59 PM

They might want to see what direction the team is headed before committing to what would be pretty much their careers

SPchief · 01-04-2012, 05:59 PM

WTF would we franchise Orton? You either sign him or let him walk and take the pick.

**DeezNutz** · 01-04-2012, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

So you can cut Cassel and keep Orton from walking for a long term deal?

Skyy God · 01-04-2012, 06:00 PM

Quality Pete thread....

**petegz28** · 01-04-2012, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Face the facts, dude...we are probably not drafting a QB that will be worthy of starting this year. That being the case I'd much rather see Orton than Cassel

SPchief · 01-04-2012, 06:01 PM

Shit, forgot to look at who started the thread.

DJ's left nut · 01-04-2012, 06:01 PM

Honestly....I kinda like the 'franchise Orton' idea, but you absolutely have to get Bowe and Carr re-signed first.

If you can get those 2 on long-term deals, you have a bunch of cap space still (the first year of those deals won't be onerous). There aren't a lot of FAs that are going to be legitimate difference makers; there rarely is.

You know that Orton's not going to want to come back on a short-term deal and that teams are actually likely to give him a pretty nice little contract. You also know that Cassel has become downright cheap, so much so that he could be a viable backup QB.

So keep Cassel and franchise Orton. All it costs is money and if nothing else, you can deal Orton if need be. It gives us a veteran QB that we can win with for at least one more season while grooming a legitimate QBOTF.

We probably want both Carr and Bowe long-term anyway, so why use the franchise tag on either of them? In this case, the best way to utilize our assets may very well be to get those 2 guys signed and then franchise Orton.

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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-900901	Honestly....I kinda like the 'franchise Orton' idea, but you absolutely have to get Bowe and Carr re-signed first. If you can get those 2 on long-term deals, you have a bunch of cap space still (the first year of those deals won't be onerous). There aren't a lot of FAs that are going to be legitimate difference makers; there rarely is. You know that Orton's not going to want to come back on a short-term deal and that teams are actually likely to give him a pretty nice little contract. You also know that Cassel has become downright cheap, so much so that he could be a viable backup QB. So keep Cassel and franchise Orton. All it costs is money and if nothing else, you can deal Orton if need be. It gives us a veteran QB that we can win with for at least one more season while grooming a legitimate QBOTF. We probably want both Carr and Bowe long-term anyway, so why use the franchise tag on either of them? In this case, the best way to utilize our assets may very well be to get those 2 guys signed and then franchise Orton. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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