Chiefs Chiefs are 63m under the cap - Page 8

ShowtimeSBMVP · 02-10-2012, 01:43 PM

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Always KC. RT @MattPomPom Teams with most salary cap room(in millions): KC $63, TB $60, CIN $60, DEN $51, WAS $48, JAC $45.

**BossChief** · 02-10-2012, 04:23 PM

I just don't EVER like letting ANY pass rushers go.

Ive always hated it when we do.

Guys like Gilberry play bigger roles than just the amount of sacks they get themselves...they open up the pass rush for guys like Hali and Houston to cause havoc.

Last year, the abilities of guys like Bailey and Gilberry masked the lacking abilities of our safeties ALL YEAR.

Also, who cares if Belcher isn't a good coverage linebacker?

I don't.

The guy is a terrific, 24 year old thumper with 2 years starting experience for Romeo Crennel... and comes off the field in passing situations.

Saying we should upgrade Belcher because he isnt good in coverage is a little like saying we should upgrade Hali because he cant cover Ray Rice in man coverage.

O.city · 02-10-2012, 04:25 PM

I would like to keep Gilberry but at the right price.

In58men · 02-10-2012, 04:25 PM

We'll spend 23 mil this offseason

O.city · 02-10-2012, 04:28 PM

LIke said earlier in this thread, we need to really spend this offseason as next offseason there won't be a ton to spend on.

This is a big season for the Chiefs to put people in the seats. Better make a splash. You could bring in Manning and the other free agents we have talked about, make a 3 or 4 year run and keep drafting well.

Next year is the year to draft the franchise qb in the first.

saphojunkie · 02-10-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

This.

$64 million?

Sign Bowe, Carr, Nicks and Soliai.

Hopefully, Daboll has SOME value and gets us the inside track on this one.

Urc Burry · 02-10-2012, 04:54 PM

Am I the only one who thinks this cap space has more to do with Carl Peterson then Scott Pioli? Outside of the '08 draft we've had I think 2 players in Carl Petersons era get second contracts. It will be 3 with Bowe, but that is still ridiculous how bad we were at drafting under Carl. That is where I believe all this money is coming from. It also helps that we resigned Jamaal Charles and DJ well under the market value

htismaqe · 02-10-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Am I the only one who thinks this cap space has more to do with Carl Peterson then Scott Pioli? Outside of the '08 draft we've had I think 2 players in Carl Petersons era get second contracts. It will be 3 with Bowe, but that is still ridiculous how bad we were at drafting under Carl. That is where I believe all this money is coming from. It also helps that we resigned Jamaal Charles and DJ well under the market value

It also helps that our big FA signings under Pioli are Steve Breaston and a bunch of guys like Brandon Siler.

O.city · 02-10-2012, 05:12 PM

Exactly htis.

This is why we decided to save all this money, for times like this. It's time to spend. If Clark is serious about winning, now is the time.

Show us Clark. I have my doubts.

Micjones · 02-10-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Exactly htis.

This is why we decided to save all this money, for times like this. It's time to spend. If Clark is serious about winning, now is the time.

Show us Clark. I have my doubts.

After he gave Hali, Charles and Johnson new contracts?

**Easy 6** · 02-10-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I would like to keep Gilberry but at the right price.

'at the right price' is the key, plus he needs to slim back down & accept his role as a situational guy.

O.city · 02-10-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

After he gave Hali, Charles and Johnson new contracts?

He did pay those guys. I give them credit.

But we are still tons and tons under the cap. They have said that they saved money to pay for the guys they draft when the second contract comes around. Well that time is now.

IMO this offseason is really huge. We could potentially come out as a force in the AFC, or another pos Chief team that might win a few games next year.

whoman69 · 02-10-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Am I the only one who thinks this cap space has more to do with Carl Peterson then Scott Pioli? Outside of the '08 draft we've had I think 2 players in Carl Petersons era get second contracts. It will be 3 with Bowe, but that is still ridiculous how bad we were at drafting under Carl. That is where I believe all this money is coming from. It also helps that we resigned Jamaal Charles and DJ well under the market value

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It also helps that our big FA signings under Pioli are Steve Breaston and a bunch of guys like Brandon Siler.

The new strategy is to build under the draft. Since you have younger players, they are cheaper, especially with the new rookie scale. CP could have never done that because he drafted so horribly. He was always looking to fill holes with expensive FAs.

O.city · 02-10-2012, 05:20 PM

Yes whoman that was/is the way they are going. Now it's time to pay those guys that were drafted.

Titty Meat · 02-10-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I just don't EVER like letting ANY pass rushers go.

Ive always hated it when we do.

Guys like Gilberry play bigger roles than just the amount of sacks they get themselves...they open up the pass rush for guys like Hali and Houston to cause havoc.

Last year, the abilities of guys like Bailey and Gilberry masked the lacking abilities of our safeties ALL YEAR.

Also, who cares if Belcher isn't a good coverage linebacker?

I don't.

The guy is a terrific, 24 year old thumper with 2 years starting experience for Romeo Crennel... and comes off the field in passing situations.

Saying we should upgrade Belcher because he isnt good in coverage is a little like saying we should upgrade Hali because he cant cover Ray Rice in man coverage.

Not really.

Micjones · 02-10-2012, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

IMO this offseason is really huge. We could potentially come out as a force in the AFC, or another pos Chief team that might win a few games next year.

I tend to agree.

It's important to bring both the big guns (Bowe/Carr) AND the important role players as well (Gilberry).

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-735936	LIke said earlier in this thread, we need to really spend this offseason as next offseason there won't be a ton to spend on. This is a big season for the Chiefs to put people in the seats. Better make a splash. You could bring in Manning and the other free agents we have talked about, make a 3 or 4 year run and keep drafting well. Next year is the year to draft the franchise qb in the first.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-735936	Exactly htis. This is why we decided to save all this money, for times like this. It's time to spend. If Clark is serious about winning, now is the time. Show us Clark. I have my doubts.
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