Chiefs I am REALLY trying not to get my hopes up, but the math is there. - Page 2

Direckshun · 03-08-2012, 08:53 PM

Peyton Manning wants to win a Super Bowl, he wants a good supporting cast and a good organization that is itching for him to join.

The AFC East is going to be very difficult to win with Tom Brady. He's probably not terribly interested in sharing the city with his brother, and his personality would be like oil and vinegar with Rex Ryan and that awful locker room. The Jets don't have the cap space for him anyway.

The Dolphins make a ton of sense because Manning wouldn't have to unseat anybody, and they have plenty of cap room, a top LT, and a good enough supporting cast offensively. They've got warm climate, and they're close to a home of his. But again, the Dolphins are in the AFC East, and they are changing their defense to a 4-3, which is going to require a season at LEAST for transition. In other words, Manning will be reduced once again to having to win shootouts.

The Texans don't want him. The 49ers don't want him. They could both improve with him, but they're married to their QBs.

The Redskins are just a disasterous organization, with a shit supporting cast. They'd meet every demand he wants, but they're in an even tougher division than the AFC East; the NFC East. Three other playoff teams. Manning wants no part of the Redskins.

The Seahawks are another disasterous organization. They've got a phenomenal fanbase, but they're on the other side of the continent. That may literally be a bridge too far. They make a ton of questionable personnel moves, and they have some cap space to be competitive.

Same with the Cardinals. Although they've got a coaching staff that's probably more reliable than Pete Carroll. They're also a dome team, we can't overlook that.

But both the Seahawks and the Cardinals have iffy defenses, and bad offensive lines. Matter of fact, the Cardinals offensive line is disasterous -- they let their starting LT hit the market, and he'll get middling offers at best. The Seahawks have a great LT in Okung, but Okung is simply not durable. By contrast, Albert missed one whole snap last year.

Outside of Kansas City, the only organization that makes a ton of sense for Manning are the Donks. Sad to say. They've got a rabid fanbase, a good and improving defense, and a front office that, while overrated, will be comfortable enough to let Manning do whatever he wants. They have a very good offensive line, although their run game is vastly overrated.

The only conceivable problem you could have with Denver is... Tebow. Thank you again, Josh McDaniels. Tebow enlists to the same agency that Manning does, and he's the entrenched starter that the fanbase loves. The latest poll on MileHighReport.com, recorded that only 60% of the fanbase would welcome Manning. Most of them are on board with Tebow mania, and you gotta know that Manning doesn't want to get in the way of that phenomenon.

If Manning wants a fanbase completely behind him, a coaching staff that he can trust and will trust him, a front office that will move heaven and earth to build the roster at killer prices (which will only get better with Manning on board), a potentially lethal run game, a great set of receivers (with room enough for Wayne -- Crennel would bring out Baldwin anyway in multiple WR sets), a need for a center in Jeff Saturday, we'll draft a tackle in the first round this year giving us two first-round talents bookending an already good line, a community similar to Indy, a soft division that all but guarantees a playoff run, a great and improving defense with two passrushers, an intense run defense and elite secondary, and more money than Manning would get anywhere else.......

The math seems to be in favor of Kansas City.

I'm doing the best I can to repress my long lost optimism. But it's getting much, much harder.

Hammock Parties · 03-08-2012, 09:08 PM

I think it's going to come down to money. If the Dolphins pay him more, he'll be in Miami.

Direckshun · 03-08-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

I think it's going to come down to money. If the Dolphins pay him more, he'll be in Miami.

We can pay him more. There's no question about that.

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-08-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

I think it's going to come down to money. If the Dolphins pay him more, he'll be in Miami.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=466

mnchiefsguy · 03-08-2012, 09:16 PM

Peyton has a ton of money....but his brother has more rings than he does. This is about a ring, and whichever team has the best shot at getting to a Superbowl in the AFC will get the nod. The money just has to be respectable, he is not going to play for the vet minimum.

**Saulbadguy** · 03-08-2012, 09:18 PM

Play the Pats, Jets and Bills twice a year or the Broncos, Chargers and Raiders twice a year?

**the Talking Can** · 03-08-2012, 09:18 PM

do people realize that these elaborate fan fantasies have exactly dick to do with whatever is going on in peyton's brain?

NJChiefsFan · 03-08-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

ITS A ****ING DOLPHIN

WEARING A HELMET

Safety first.

**RealSNR** · 03-08-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

This thread needs a Gif of Archer beating Pam over the head while she's crying saying "F*** your dolphin!"

I think she peed!

**RealSNR** · 03-08-2012, 09:22 PM

I forgot how funny this show is. I need to catch the repeat of the new episode tonight at 10

O.city · 03-08-2012, 09:23 PM

I think a positive for KC, is something that Holthus actually talked about (i know i know).

He said he has had conversations with Manning about the football culture in KC. Manning said this is the way football is supposed to be, in relation to the fan support.

I guarantee that Arrowhead would be 90's style again if this were to actually happen and work out.

FAX · 03-08-2012, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

do people realize that these elaborate fan fantasies have exactly dick to do with whatever is going on in peyton's brain?

I think you're onto something there, Mr. the Talking Can.

Our wild speculations have nothing to do with how, when, or why Manning will make his final decision. Unless he believes that teal is a terrible color on him and clashes with his eyes.

FAX

**notorious** · 03-08-2012, 09:24 PM

Peyton's wife is going to have the most influence on his decision.

We're ****ed.

**RealSNR** · 03-08-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Peyton's wife is going to have the most influence on his decision.

We're ****ed.

"Peyton honey does Fiji have an NFL team?"

**notorious** · 03-08-2012, 09:34 PM

I remember reading a Sports Illustrated article back when he was drafted.

It opened with a story about him moving into his new apartment in Indy, and how he called his girlfriend and told her his TV wasn't working.

She came to his place and screwed the cable into the back of the TV.

This man knows nothing BUT football.

Stanley Nickels · 03-08-2012, 09:35 PM

My wife's top 5 are, in order: Chiefs, Browns, Saints, Bears and Bengals.

Granted, she knows nothing about football, but I'm kinda impressed she can even name five. Ima put a baby in that tonight, I think.

03-08-2012, 08:53 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	I am REALLY trying not to get my hopes up, but the math is there. Peyton Manning wants to win a Super Bowl, he wants a good supporting cast and a good organization that is itching for him to join. The AFC East is going to be very difficult to win with Tom Brady. He's probably not terribly interested in sharing the city with his brother, and his personality would be like oil and vinegar with Rex Ryan and that awful locker room. The Jets don't have the cap space for him anyway. The Dolphins make a ton of sense because Manning wouldn't have to unseat anybody, and they have plenty of cap room, a top LT, and a good enough supporting cast offensively. They've got warm climate, and they're close to a home of his. But again, the Dolphins are in the AFC East, and they are changing their defense to a 4-3, which is going to require a season at LEAST for transition. In other words, Manning will be reduced once again to having to win shootouts. The Texans don't want him. The 49ers don't want him. They could both improve with him, but they're married to their QBs. The Redskins are just a disasterous organization, with a shit supporting cast. They'd meet every demand he wants, but they're in an even tougher division than the AFC East; the NFC East. Three other playoff teams. Manning wants no part of the Redskins. The Seahawks are another disasterous organization. They've got a phenomenal fanbase, but they're on the other side of the continent. That may literally be a bridge too far. They make a ton of questionable personnel moves, and they have some cap space to be competitive. Same with the Cardinals. Although they've got a coaching staff that's probably more reliable than Pete Carroll. They're also a dome team, we can't overlook that. But both the Seahawks and the Cardinals have iffy defenses, and bad offensive lines. Matter of fact, the Cardinals offensive line is disasterous -- they let their starting LT hit the market, and he'll get middling offers at best. The Seahawks have a great LT in Okung, but Okung is simply not durable. By contrast, Albert missed one whole snap last year. Outside of Kansas City, the only organization that makes a ton of sense for Manning are the Donks. Sad to say. They've got a rabid fanbase, a good and improving defense, and a front office that, while overrated, will be comfortable enough to let Manning do whatever he wants. They have a very good offensive line, although their run game is vastly overrated. The only conceivable problem you could have with Denver is... Tebow. Thank you again, Josh McDaniels. Tebow enlists to the same agency that Manning does, and he's the entrenched starter that the fanbase loves. The latest poll on MileHighReport.com, recorded that only 60% of the fanbase would welcome Manning. Most of them are on board with Tebow mania, and you gotta know that Manning doesn't want to get in the way of that phenomenon. If Manning wants a fanbase completely behind him, a coaching staff that he can trust and will trust him, a front office that will move heaven and earth to build the roster at killer prices (which will only get better with Manning on board), a potentially lethal run game, a great set of receivers (with room enough for Wayne -- Crennel would bring out Baldwin anyway in multiple WR sets), a need for a center in Jeff Saturday, we'll draft a tackle in the first round this year giving us two first-round talents bookending an already good line, a community similar to Indy, a soft division that all but guarantees a playoff run, a great and improving defense with two passrushers, an intense run defense and elite secondary, and more money than Manning would get anywhere else....... The math seems to be in favor of Kansas City. I'm doing the best I can to repress my long lost optimism. But it's getting much, much harder.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $740478	I think it's going to come down to money. If the Dolphins pay him more, he'll be in Miami. __________________ Chiefs game films
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03-08-2012, 09:16 PM	#19
mnchiefsguy MVP Join Date: Dec 2003 Casino cash: $1156206	Peyton has a ton of money....but his brother has more rings than he does. This is about a ring, and whichever team has the best shot at getting to a Superbowl in the AFC will get the nod. The money just has to be respectable, he is not going to play for the vet minimum. __________________
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03-08-2012, 09:23 PM	#25
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-785936	I think a positive for KC, is something that Holthus actually talked about (i know i know). He said he has had conversations with Manning about the football culture in KC. Manning said this is the way football is supposed to be, in relation to the fan support. I guarantee that Arrowhead would be 90's style again if this were to actually happen and work out.
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03-08-2012, 09:24 PM	#27
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $-1034116	Peyton's wife is going to have the most influence on his decision. We're ****ed.
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03-08-2012, 09:34 PM	#29
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $-1034116	I remember reading a Sports Illustrated article back when he was drafted. It opened with a story about him moving into his new apartment in Indy, and how he called his girlfriend and told her his TV wasn't working. She came to his place and screwed the cable into the back of the TV. This man knows nothing BUT football.
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03-08-2012, 09:35 PM	#30
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