Chiefs Chiefs interested in Soliai and Manning could hold up FA in general - Page 12

Carlota69 · 03-13-2012, 09:08 AM

Soliai has suitors, but Peyton chase could be a factor
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 10:56 AM EDT

APMike Freeman of CBSSports.com raised an interesting point earlier today on Twitter.

“When does the Manning backlash begin?“

The answer could be “very soon,” when fans and media begin to realize that Peyton’s indecision could keep teams on the sidelines in free agency.

Multiple league sources have pointed out already that some teams will wait to see whether they land Peyton before opening the change purse for other players. One guy caught in that dilemma, we’re told, is Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai.

Soliai played under the franchise tag in 2011, and he’ll hit the market at 4:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday. A league source tells PFT that the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons are interested.

But three of those teams (Denver, Miami, San Fran) reportedly are (or, at to the Niners, may be) in the Peyton chase. And so, while other teams that aren’t maneuvering for Manning are interested in Soliai, it’s hard to max out the market if half of the interested teams are twiddling their thumbs for Peyton.

The Broncos have the cap space to allow them to start spending while waiting for Peyton. Still, they need to know how to best budget their money, especially if Peyton will be bringing Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday.

Bottom line? While free agency begins in five hours, it may not really get going until Peyton picks a team.

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

I believe htis' position is that he would rather just go with Cassel this year ... suck ... get everyone cut/fired ... get a high draft pick ... move forward.

Instead of getting moderate improvement from Orton and keep inching forward.

No, not at all.

1. I don't think Cassel is going to suck bad enough to get everyone fired.

2. I DO think Cassel will be mediocre enough that they'll finally move on from him, given what they've said so far this offseason.

3. I don't believe Orton provides moderate improvement. I don't believe signing Orton is inching forward. I believe Orton is "more of the same".

4. The reasons for canning Cassel after 2011/2012 simply won't exist for Orton. If Orton becomes the starter, the "excuse" counter gets reset to zero. He'll be here for at least 2 or 3 years.

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I'm a bit worried that Orton, if he indeed would be an upgrade, would do nothing but perpetuate the mediocrity.

Slight improvement...calls for Orton to get "more help" because he's "earned another year." Same shit we've always been dealing with.

Yeah, Orton would probably be better for this team in the immediate future, but I don't think there's any chance in hell that we can win a SB with him. None. So it's kind of one those things where it's easy to say, "What's the point?"

So, yeah. I guess I would rather have Orton than Cassel, but...

Kind of what I'm saying...

Bambi · 03-13-2012, 01:27 PM

lol, anyone listening to Keitzman?

He's still in on Manning!

**Dave Lane** · 03-13-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Kyle Orton isn't going to be that QB that puts the team on his back and takes them to the promise land. Orton is that QB that will allow your team to play to its strengths and not **** you when the game is on the line.

Cassel is neither.

No Orton is the guy that will play well and then **** you when the game is on the line. Ask any Broncos fans why Tim ****ing Tebow beat him out and why he was cut midseason. He sucks in the clutch. Throws a pick 6 at the wrong time.

It's so sad we are so beaten down as chiefs fans that we see Orton as anything more than a guy. He's not look at all the threads from when Orton was sent to the donks and how hard we laughed at them. Now the rest of the league is laughing at us for wanting to sign him.

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

lol, anyone listening to Keitzman?

He's still in on Manning!

Actually he's talking about some guy getting stabbed in the femoral artery with a putter...

And he just called the guy from Sporting KC Rob "Hymen".

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

No Orton is the guy that will play well and then **** you when the game is on the line. Ask any Broncos fans why Tim ****ing Tebow beat him out and why he was cut midseason. He sucks in the clutch. Throws a pick 6 at the wrong time.

It's so sad we are so beaten down as chiefs fans that we see Orton as anything more than a guy. He's not look at all the threads from when Orton was sent to the donks and how hard we laughed at them. Now the rest of the league is laughing at us for wanting to sign him.

**dirk digler** · 03-13-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

I believe htis' position is that he would rather just go with Cassel this year ... suck ... get everyone cut/fired ... get a high draft pick ... move forward.

Instead of getting moderate improvement from Orton and keep inching forward.

Well if that is the case I am all for it.

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Well if that is the case I am all for it.

We couldn't be that lucky.

**the Talking Can** · 03-13-2012, 01:38 PM

i'd like to thank Candy Wrapper Pioli for making us choose between Cassel and Orton...

4 years of Scott

Titty Meat · 03-13-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i'd like to thank Candy Wrapper Pioli for making us choose between Cassel and Orton...

4 years of Scott

Heh this is what the highest paid GM gets us. Way to go Clark!

**The Bad Guy** · 03-13-2012, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i'd like to thank Candy Wrapper Pioli for making us choose between Cassel and Orton...

4 years of Scott

Hopefully someone turns over a rock and it crushes him.

Carlota69 · 03-13-2012, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson

lol, anyone listening to Keitzman?

He's still in on Manning!

Whats his schtick now?

**The Bad Guy** · 03-13-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

We couldn't be that lucky.

Yep. We aren't.

Pioli is honestly here for a long, long time.

Clark is going to purge everyone but him.

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Yep. We aren't.

Pioli is honestly here for a long, long time.

Clark is going to purge everyone but him.

We had our 3 years of top 10 picks and we ****ed them up.

Now we're back in our 7-9/9-7 cycle.

It will be another 10 years before anything changes.

Mike in SW-MO · 03-13-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

No argument there. But let's not forget they were missing their best RB and TE and the play calling was suspect at best.

I am not saying Orton is great or above average or maybe even average but he is better than Cassel by a country mile. I would rather have neither of them unless in a backup role but because the Chiefs are ****ing stupid it looks like they are the only option at this point.

Plus they were moving the ball fine and scored a TD before Bowed went down.

Lack of success not surprising with no running game, no #1 receiver, no pass-catching TE, being protected by BR.

03-13-2012, 09:08 AM
Carlota69 MVP Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas Casino cash: $9925282	Chiefs interested in Soliai and Manning could hold up FA in general Soliai has suitors, but Peyton chase could be a factor Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 10:56 AM EDT APMike Freeman of CBSSports.com raised an interesting point earlier today on Twitter. “When does the Manning backlash begin?“ The answer could be “very soon,” when fans and media begin to realize that Peyton’s indecision could keep teams on the sidelines in free agency. Multiple league sources have pointed out already that some teams will wait to see whether they land Peyton before opening the change purse for other players. One guy caught in that dilemma, we’re told, is Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai. Soliai played under the franchise tag in 2011, and he’ll hit the market at 4:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday. A league source tells PFT that the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons are interested. But three of those teams (Denver, Miami, San Fran) reportedly are (or, at to the Niners, may be) in the Peyton chase. And so, while other teams that aren’t maneuvering for Manning are interested in Soliai, it’s hard to max out the market if half of the interested teams are twiddling their thumbs for Peyton. The Broncos have the cap space to allow them to start spending while waiting for Peyton. Still, they need to know how to best budget their money, especially if Peyton will be bringing Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday. Bottom line? While free agency begins in five hours, it may not really get going until Peyton picks a team.
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