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Old 05-19-2012, 05:21 PM  
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Elite QB's: I'm There Says Matt Cassel

matt cassel say's he right "there" with Manning, Rivers & the QB Elite of the NFL. sure. see him say it with your own eyes cuz I can't believe it either;

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Old 05-23-2012, 10:26 PM   #226
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Ya chill out, Matt Cassel put up numbers in college check it out

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cv...sp?Player=7688

Weird couldn't find any highlight film what's up with that?
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:30 PM   #227
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Ya chill out, Matt Cassel put up numbers in college check it out

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cv...sp?Player=7688

Weird couldn't find any highlight film what's up with that?
In all fairness if we showed your Chiefsplanet highlight posts, they probably would be to spazz-tastic to even put up on eric007's mom's fridge.

Simmer down.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:42 PM   #228
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here's a blurb from bill williamson;


Pressure point: Chiefs

Examining who faces the most challenging season for the Chiefs and why.

I wish I could be creative here and point the finger at someone other than Matt Cassel in Kansas City.

I just can’t.

No one is facing more of a pressure situation in Kansas City than Cassel heading into the 2012 season. Sure, Kansas City general manager Scott Pioli (who traded for Cassel three years ago) will feel the heat if Cassel fails in 2012. But Pioli probably will not be fired if Cassel fails in 2012. Pioli probably will be given an opportunity to replace Cassel.

However, if Cassel fails this season, he probably will lose his job. Hence, the immense pressure.

The Chiefs showed confidence in Cassel this offseason when they built around him in free agency and the draft instead of replacing him. Kansas City has put together a strong team, one that appears to have few holes. It is set up to make a playoff run.

But Cassel has to lead it there. Again, it’s all on him. The pieces are there. If Cassel doesn’t seize the moment, he’ll pay for it by losing his job.


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Old 05-23-2012, 11:14 PM   #229
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:29 PM   #231
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This is a nice fantasy for you, but what if Quinn is the #2?
Then Stanzi will be in by game 9.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:32 PM   #232
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Then Stanzi will be in by game 9.
I've said this before IMO Cassel will get injured again for an extended period of time and that's when he'll lose his job when Stanzi or Quinn out perform him.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:45 PM   #233
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Then Stanzi will be in by game 9.


Sounds like a successful season.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:57 PM   #234
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Sounds like a successful season.
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:39 PM   #235
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You're wrong ... Stop it ... Just stop it. Quarterback interceptions can be deceiving. whoman69, come on - I expect you to know that.


Wall Street Journal: A Closer Look at Eli's Interceptions

Sept. 6, 2011

The Giants Quarterback Had Plenty of 'Help' in Recording a League-Leading 25 Picks Last Year; Tips, Poor Routes, Bad Luck

Manning threw for 4,002 yards in 2010, while recording career-highs in touchdowns (31), completion percentage (62.9) and completions (339). No one was more productive on first down than the Giants, no one threw more touchdowns of 20 or more yards, and even his critics acknowledge Manning is among the league's best at reading defenses and setting protections in both the run and pass game.

Only 14 of Manning's 2010 interceptions were solely on him. To be sure, other quarterbacks are also victimized by poor route-running, tipped balls, good defense and bad luck, but Manning's exceptionally high interception total wouldn't have happened without so many issues beyond his control.


Take a look:

No. 1 — 1st quarter, 11:10, 2nd and 18 at NYG 36, 0-0
Receiver Hakeem Nicks sets out on an in cut. When the free safety crashes the slot receiver, Nicks is forced inside the yard numbers, instead of outside. That takes him out of the spot Manning throws to and when the ball is therefore a bit behind him, it glances off his hands and into safety Charles Godfrey's. Nicks needs to straighten up, work his way back outside the numbers and then cut in.
Blame: RECEIVER

No. 2 — 2nd quarter, 9:32, 3rd and 20 at NYG 47, NYG 7-6
With Carolina in a Tampa-2 and his receivers covered, Manning properly checks down to wide-open running back Ahmad Bradshaw—who doesn't catch the totally catchable ball and instead tips it to linebacker James Anderson.
Blame: RECEIVER


Here is the rest of Eli Manning's game by game interception breakdown:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...658719968.html
Every QB has that and it sounds a little like the excuse that the QB can't throw the ball and catch it too. Its not the first time Eli has led the league in picks. In your examples, if you wan't to blame a receiver that is force out of his route and the ball is behind him, Matt Cassel has never thrown a pick that was his fault. Eli was not considered an elite QB despite his statements otherwise, which were largely derided by the media. Any other view is 50/50 hindsight.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:20 PM   #236
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This is a nice fantasy for you, but what if Quinn is the #2?
I doubt it, but if that's the case I will be equally enthusiastic about the Brady Quinn era. At least Cassel is ****ing gone.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:12 PM   #237
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Every QB has that and it sounds a little like the excuse that the QB can't throw the ball and catch it too. Its not the first time Eli has led the league in picks. In your examples, if you wan't to blame a receiver that is force out of his route and the ball is behind him, Matt Cassel has never thrown a pick that was his fault. Eli was not considered an elite QB despite his statements otherwise, which were largely derided by the media. Any other view is 50/50 hindsight.
Link ... I've never heard that Eli has led the NFL in picks in multiple seasons. Honestly, if it is true, I don't care. On second thought, forget the link.

You don't get it. Wins are the main statistic I'm interested in - especially during the playoffs.

Since we tend to differ on the significance of interceptions, maybe you could give us some color on how many interceptions Drew Brees had in sort of the same period.

However, I would just add to that - Interception stats are not important to me. When it's your team and you're watching every game, you know for sure how many were his fault and how many were the fault of circumstance. If your smart, your eyes will tell you everything you need to know.

Again, can you please tell me why we are we having this conversation about Eli's interceptions?

Eli has won two Super Bowl MVP awards in four seasons - Super Bowl XLII and Super Bowl XLVI.


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Anyone know how long ago everyone got Dabolls playbook?

Quinn obviously has a couple years of experience over both Cassel and Stanzi...Id just like to know how long Stanzi has had his playbook.

I dont really care who is ahead of who this early in otas, but I bet Stanzi makes strides during the rest of the offseason going into camp and preseason.
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I doubt it, but if that's the case I will be equally enthusiastic about the Brady Quinn era. At least Cassel is ****ing gone.
Who said anything about any era.

It would be hilarious if we went 7-6 with Cassel, he got hurt, and Quinn blew the last three games of the year as the #2, ending the Pioli regime and proving he had no clue whatsoever about quarterbacks from the very beginning.
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Who said anything about any era.

It would be hilarious if we went 7-6 with Cassel, he got hurt, and Quinn blew the last three games of the year as the #2, ending the Pioli regime and proving he had no clue whatsoever about quarterbacks from the very beginning.
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