Chiefs Worried: Someone tell me why we won't get murdered by Atlanta. - Page 13

Frankie · 09-01-2012, 01:24 PM

Our D might well end up a good one as the season progresses. But I'm very very worried about the first game. Not just to lose, but to lose discouragingly big.

1- Our DL while solid has not shown signs of wreaking havoc in the opponents' backfield. Yes I'm told that's the style of 34 Romeo plays. But wait....

2- Without Tamba Hali Ryan will have all day to throw, especially considering point 1.

3- The thought of Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Gonzo, against our depleted secondary stresses me to almost puking.

This is gonna be one of those games when we see passes completed against our D with scary consistency. The only way we have any chance to win this is if we can manage long time consuming run heavy drives that would keep the Atlanta O on the bench for the majority of the game. Maybe that's why Daboll was emphasizing the run in the last preseason game so much.

Tell me something hopeful.

Marcellus · 09-03-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Since when did Arenas become this limited defender?

IMO he has done quite well covering slot receivers since day one.

I have little worries about him covering Harry Douglas.

People here undervalue Arenas. He is doing what he was drafted to do and doing it just fine.

Falconidae · 09-03-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Haha SEE? Even falcon fans know we have the better qb

He hardly represents the majority view of falcons fans.

Dirty Bird · 09-03-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Falconidae

He hardly represents the majority view of falcons fans.

I agree but i'm not trying to turn this into a Ryan thread on a foreign message board. I'm pro Ryan all the way and he has shown steady improvement year by year. All i'm saying is until proven otherwise opposing defenses don't and won't fear Ryan as much as they do Rodgers,Brady and those top tier QB's.

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-03-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Falconidae

He hardly represents the majority view of falcons fans.

Welcome to the board. Give us our HOF TE back. I hope you know our boy is going in the Hall as a Chief.

Hopefully no injuries, or aggravated injuries, to both teams on Sunday and may the best team win. Looking forward to a great game. And if you'd like we can trade QBs.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-03-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

while i don't disagree ...

who is going to cover anyone?

Even if Flowers does play, who is going to cover the 3rd wideout?

let's just say that Flowers and Routt can hold their own against White and Jones. Which guy are you going to have cover the 3 wide receiver?

Arenas is very limited about what type of receiver he can cover. The guy can't be too big or too fast.

Jalil Brown is stank ass
Jacques Reeves is even worse than stank ass
Travis Daniels is meh

who's going to cover Tony G?

apparently berry is going to play like a linebacker
Elam?
Lewis(even if he plays he can't cover worth a shit)
Hartman?

i still think we are going to struggle to cover tightends this year.

teams are going to do to us what teams did to the Steelers a few years back. Just go to a multiple receiver set, spread the defense and abuse the 3rd/4th corner.

I think you've gotten spoiled. Our CBs are top-notch. Travis Daniels, in my opinion, is one of the most underrated players on the Chiefs' roster. He's not an every day starter, but I'm very comfortable putting him out there as a #2 CB in a pinch. Arenas is terrific -- in the new NFL, you have to have smaller guys who can cover the slot and he's done very well. If need be, Travis Daniels can rotate up to the nickel.

So yeah, even with the Chiefs missing 2 key guys, the secondary is still pretty solid. With our starting guys, I think we have one of the deepest secondaries in the NFL.

PS the reason we couldn't cover tight ends in the past is because we didn't have Eric Berry. That changes this season. Piscatelli was an absolute embarrassment.

beach tribe · 09-03-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

People here undervalue Arenas. He is doing what he was drafted to do and doing it just fine.

I was just about to post this. Arenas is a lot better than people give him credit for, and he's not Mark McMillan. He's basically the same size as Flowers, and he's going into his third season, and has made steady progression throughout his career. Definitely a guy who is overlooked, and undervalued.

Hammock Parties · 09-03-2012, 02:00 PM

He was still taken too high.

If you spend a 2nd on a CB he should be starting material.

Arenas ain't.

We got a 4th round value in the 2nd.

Yahooty.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 02:07 PM

The matchups I hate in the season opener are Jones/Flowers and Tony G (if it's true that DJ has a HAS)

White is gonna win some matchups against Routt, but I think SR will hold his own.

IMO Arenas wins the Harry Douglas matchup.

Our run d should keep them in 2nd and 3rd and long situations.

I've said it a couple times...if Cassel can give us what he did in mid 2010, we win the game...if not, we might get blown out.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

He was still taken too high.

If you spend a 2nd on a CB he should be starting material.

Arenas ain't.

We got a 4th round value in the 2nd.

Yahooty.

1996 called.

They want their post back.

beach tribe · 09-03-2012, 02:09 PM

Arenas is another case of guys around here thinking a guy was over drafted, so they get a negative impression of them in their head, and that somehow convinces them that the guy is crappy because of it.

beach tribe · 09-03-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

He was still taken too high.

If you spend a 2nd on a CB he should be starting material.

Arenas ain't.

We got a 4th round value in the 2nd.

Yahooty.

Arenas was a 2nd round prospect, whether you liked the pick or not. He was damn good at Alabama, and was much better than a 4th round talent.

beach tribe · 09-03-2012, 02:14 PM

And tell me again, why you are posting before the season, Clay.

threebag · 09-03-2012, 02:20 PM

Monday Week 1.

Let Clay Play...Let Clay Play...

beach tribe · 09-03-2012, 02:35 PM

In an attempt to save myself, and the rest of the board from as much of your spew as possible, I'd like to make a bet with you Clay. Since you are so sure the ATL will "nuke" us, If we lose, I will not be able to post, until we win a game, If we win, you Cannot post until we lose. Deal?

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

In an attempt to save myself, and the rest of the board from as much of your spew as possible, I'd like to make a bet with you Clay. Since you are so sure the ATL will "nuke" us, If we lose, I will not be able to post, until we win a game, If we win, you Cannot post until we lose. Deal?

**** that.

I want to see gifd up

09-01-2012, 01:24 PM
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Worried: Someone tell me why we won't get murdered by Atlanta. Our D might well end up a good one as the season progresses. But I'm very very worried about the first game. Not just to lose, but to lose discouragingly big. 1- Our DL while solid has not shown signs of wreaking havoc in the opponents' backfield. Yes I'm told that's the style of 34 Romeo plays. But wait.... 2- Without Tamba Hali Ryan will have all day to throw, especially considering point 1. 3- The thought of Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Gonzo, against our depleted secondary stresses me to almost puking. This is gonna be one of those games when we see passes completed against our D with scary consistency. The only way we have any chance to win this is if we can manage long time consuming run heavy drives that would keep the Atlanta O on the bench for the majority of the game. Maybe that's why Daboll was emphasizing the run in the last preseason game so much. Tell me something hopeful.
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09-03-2012, 02:00 PM	#187
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $830478	He was still taken too high. If you spend a 2nd on a CB he should be starting material. Arenas ain't. We got a 4th round value in the 2nd. Yahooty. __________________ Chiefs game films
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09-03-2012, 02:07 PM	#188
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1725912	The matchups I hate in the season opener are Jones/Flowers and Tony G (if it's true that DJ has a HAS) White is gonna win some matchups against Routt, but I think SR will hold his own. IMO Arenas wins the Harry Douglas matchup. Our run d should keep them in 2nd and 3rd and long situations. I've said it a couple times...if Cassel can give us what he did in mid 2010, we win the game...if not, we might get blown out.
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09-03-2012, 02:09 PM	#190
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $3898036	Arenas is another case of guys around here thinking a guy was over drafted, so they get a negative impression of them in their head, and that somehow convinces them that the guy is crappy because of it.
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09-03-2012, 02:14 PM	#192
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $3898036	And tell me again, why you are posting before the season, Clay.
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09-03-2012, 02:20 PM	#193
threebag Snacks Are Under My Apron Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Edge Casino cash: $-1082380	Monday Week 1. Let Clay Play...Let Clay Play... __________________ Smells like Up Dog in here. RIP HayWire Greatest Almost Mod Ever
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09-03-2012, 02:35 PM	#194
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $3898036	In an attempt to save myself, and the rest of the board from as much of your spew as possible, I'd like to make a bet with you Clay. Since you are so sure the ATL will "nuke" us, If we lose, I will not be able to post, until we win a game, If we win, you Cannot post until we lose. Deal?
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