Chiefs Worried: Someone tell me why we won't get murdered by Atlanta. - Page 21

Frankie · 09-01-2012, 01:24 PM

Our D might well end up a good one as the season progresses. But I'm very very worried about the first game. Not just to lose, but to lose discouragingly big.

1- Our DL while solid has not shown signs of wreaking havoc in the opponents' backfield. Yes I'm told that's the style of 34 Romeo plays. But wait....

2- Without Tamba Hali Ryan will have all day to throw, especially considering point 1.

3- The thought of Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Gonzo, against our depleted secondary stresses me to almost puking.

This is gonna be one of those games when we see passes completed against our D with scary consistency. The only way we have any chance to win this is if we can manage long time consuming run heavy drives that would keep the Atlanta O on the bench for the majority of the game. Maybe that's why Daboll was emphasizing the run in the last preseason game so much.

Tell me something hopeful.

Saccopoo · 09-03-2012, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Orton is a lot better than Quinn. No one can argue than that.

This is easily a 10-6/11-5 team with Kyle Orton.

With Cassel? Might be a 7 or 8 win team.

Sign Kyle Orton and you at least present the picture that you tried to find a viable alternative.

Quinn was a BS signing that only true fans put any value in.

Holy shit. Did you watch any of Dallas' preseason games? Orton was ****ing atrocious. Beyond bad.

**** that noise.

Quinn is a total upgrade to that pile of monkey shit.

Saccopoo · 09-03-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

God dammit.

I swear to god I am not New World Order.

I don't know...you both have the same rep.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-03-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Orton is a lot better than Quinn. No one can argue than that.

This is easily a 10-6/11-5 team with Kyle Orton.

With Cassel? Might be a 7 or 8 win team.

Sign Kyle Orton and you at least present the picture that you tried to find a viable alternative.

Quinn was a BS signing that only true fans put any value in.

His red zone play was garbage.

I'm not gonna argue about this because he was not the answer.

Hammock Parties · 09-03-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Holy shit. Did you watch any of Dallas' preseason games? Orton was ****ing atrocious. Beyond bad.

**** that noise.

Quinn is a total upgrade to that pile of monkey shit.

Based on several years of NFL play, Orton drops nuclear bombs on Brady Quinn's Hiroshima and/or Nagasaki.

**** preseason.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-03-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Holy shit. Did you watch any of Dallas' preseason games? Orton was ****ing atrocious. Beyond bad.

**** that noise.

Quinn is a total upgrade to that pile of monkey shit.

Orton's problem is he just doesn't give a shit.

That's why he went to Dallas.

Didn't have to worry about competing for a starting job and got a nice contract.

**New World Order** · 09-03-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

C'mon man.

If the Chiefs picked any of those guys in the first or second round, this place would have imploded and I wouldn't have touched Dog Killer with a ten foot pole when he was parolled.

That those guys worked out, and Dalton, Wilson and Freeman all have more to prove regardless, is irrelevant. Freeman was a reach and Dalton, Wilson and Yates aren't/weren't first round talents. Sometimes you are lucky and sometimes you are really lucky as the Colts were this draft.

However, there are four, maybe five guys this next draft who are basically the same player. All very good QB's. One should be available when the Chiefs pick. If they don't, they don't, but the opportunity to grab a real first round guy is going to be there this next draft. Or it should. You never know what lunatic team trades up or whathaveyou, but in a straight forward draft, this is going to be the Chiefs best opportunity to get a graded out first round guy since Aaron Rogers and Brady Quinn. (Though, oddly enough, we now have Quinn. Maybe the team is okay with/agrees with Coogs and thinks he's the QBOTF.)

You (Or someone else) asked who I would rather have at qb and I told you.

We both know Pioli won't pick a qb in the first round. I agree it's a great idea but it will not happen.

Saccopoo · 09-03-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

You (Or someone else) asked who I would rather have at qb and I told you.

We both know Pioli won't pick a qb in the first round. I agree it's a great idea but it will not happen.

I'm not talking about hindsight you tool. There was no way that anyone was taking any of those guys for this team before they were drafted. And Vick was a total coach killer, let alone canines.

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-04-2012, 08:54 AM

Tell Orton the reward is a bottle of jack and he may lead the team to 11 wins.

beach tribe · 09-04-2012, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

You can find a guy like Arenas in the 3rd or 4th round.

He was overdrafted, period.

Maybe if he brought Hester-like value to the return game, he'd be worth that pick. He doesn't.

So what DB was taken in the 3rd or 4th round of that draft that is better than Arenas, and has the 3rd highest PR av. in the league?
Arenas also played 60% of the teams defensive snaps last season, so he's nearly considered a starter, and a well above average one.

beach tribe · 09-04-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

So Pioli, the highest paid GM in football, is excused from picking Dexter McCluster. Got it.

Show me one GM in the league who hit a home run with every pick. They don't exist. Pioli has drafted as well as any GM in the league, and if you don't agree, I'd like to see a couple of examples.

beach tribe · 09-04-2012, 10:03 AM

Oh, and are you taking my bet or not?, I'll even allow you to start, and post in the Gif'd up thread, as long as I can post in that thread as well if i lose. That will at least be able to stop you from shitting in every thread.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-04-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Show me one GM in the league who hit a home run with every pick. They don't exist. Pioli has drafted as well as any GM in the league, and if you don't agree, I'd like to see a couple of examples.

I'm too lazy, but someone should compare the Chiefs drafts from 09-11 with Baltimore(De Costa) and Atlanta(Dimitroff).

beach tribe · 09-04-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

I'm too lazy, but someone should compare the Chiefs drafts from 09-11 with Baltimore(De Costa) and Atlanta(Dimitroff).

I would bet that we have added a comparable amount of quality starters as those teams have, and those teams also have some guys that didn't pan out as well. We have very very few players who have actually completely washed out. McCluster was over drafted, but it's not as if he is a complete wash out.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-04-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I would bet that we have added a comparable amount of quality starters as those teams have, and those teams also have some guys that didn't pan out as well. We have very very few players who have actually completely washed out. McCluster was over drafted, but it's not as if he is a complete wash out.

Overall, I'm pleased with Pioli's drafts.

Were he's failed is Cassel.

ToxSocks · 09-04-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

So Pioli, the highest paid GM in football, is excused from picking Dexter McCluster. Got it.

Ha. Didn't take you long, did it?

What other McCluster bets you still have on the table?

09-01-2012, 01:24 PM
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Worried: Someone tell me why we won't get murdered by Atlanta. Our D might well end up a good one as the season progresses. But I'm very very worried about the first game. Not just to lose, but to lose discouragingly big. 1- Our DL while solid has not shown signs of wreaking havoc in the opponents' backfield. Yes I'm told that's the style of 34 Romeo plays. But wait.... 2- Without Tamba Hali Ryan will have all day to throw, especially considering point 1. 3- The thought of Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Gonzo, against our depleted secondary stresses me to almost puking. This is gonna be one of those games when we see passes completed against our D with scary consistency. The only way we have any chance to win this is if we can manage long time consuming run heavy drives that would keep the Atlanta O on the bench for the majority of the game. Maybe that's why Daboll was emphasizing the run in the last preseason game so much. Tell me something hopeful.
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09-04-2012, 10:03 AM	#311
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $3898036	Oh, and are you taking my bet or not?, I'll even allow you to start, and post in the Gif'd up thread, as long as I can post in that thread as well if i lose. That will at least be able to stop you from shitting in every thread.
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