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Old 10-16-2012, 11:01 AM  
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Despite rumors over weekend of Scott Pioli getting an extension, sources say KC already has a list of potential people to replace him as GM.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:50 PM   #181
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We think we could.

We know Dorsey and Jackson are useless in such a defense. Bailey is a lousy pass rusher and appears to be another Pioli bust at this point.

Could Powe, Ropati and Poe do it? It's questionable.

If we tried to change the entire scheme to 1-gap at this point I doubt it would do anything but cause mass confusion and enormous running lanes.
The team would be better off letting Drosey, Jackson, and Cassel go after the season. That's what? 20 million in cap space?
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:53 PM   #182
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We think we could.

We know Dorsey and Jackson are useless in such a defense. Bailey is a lousy pass rusher and appears to be another Pioli bust at this point.

Could Powe, Ropati and Poe do it? It's questionable.

If we tried to change the entire scheme to 1-gap at this point I doubt it would do anything but cause mass confusion and enormous running lanes.
Disagree with you on Dorsey, and no, one bad year in Gun's system when he was asked to play more of a Nose Tackle role isn't validation of that.

His skill set out of college was his first step. He is not a pass rusher, but he is a guy who knows how to collapse the pocket and attack the run.

Jackson, if moved to a 1-gap, is out.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:53 PM   #183
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:55 PM   #184
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:57 PM   #185
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Disagree with you on Dorsey, and no, one bad year in Gun's system when he was asked to play more of a Nose Tackle role isn't validation of that.

His skill set out of college was his first step. He is not a pass rusher, but he is a guy who knows how to collapse the pocket and attack the run.

Jackson, if moved to a 1-gap, is out.
By the way...
Gus Bradley in Seattle runs a 3-4/4-3 hybrid. Funny, because that's the defense I think Haley wanted to build. But it's also a defense we could very effectively transition into.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:00 PM   #186
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A QB goes without saying at this point. Its a waste of time even typing it. Everyone knew from the beginning that Dorsey was being put in a spot that probably wasn't going to work.
It would have been beneficial to take a loss on value and trade Dorsey.

Best for him and we could have turned around and gotten a legit 3-4 DE with the pick...
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We could switch to 1-gap right now and improve the defense dramatically. Passive defense just doesn't get it done in today's NFL. Even average QBs will pick it apart eventually.
truth - the only way that bend-don't-break shit works is when you can get constant pass rush.

Tampa could do that shit because of their personel; everyone (except Indy) who tried to emulate the famed 'Tampa 2' failed (sound familiar).

**** a 2-gap defense. We don't have the pass rush, and no secondary depth - **** how did this happen!!!???
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By the way...
Gus Bradley in Seattle runs a 3-4/4-3 hybrid. Funny, because that's the defense I think Haley wanted to build. But it's also a defense we could very effectively transition into.
that's exactly why it took so long to name a DC in '09
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:14 PM   #189
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The talent is not there.

Not at the level people think.

We have a lot of trash on the defensive line and in the secondary that needs to be taken out.

Offensively, Dexter, Baldwin and our backup running backs are NOT GOOD PLAYERS, certainly not guys who deserve to be starting anyway, and I am going to pound that into this forum's collective head until they agree with me.

This team needs:

HC
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A RB to compliment Charles, because I doubt Hillis is back. Droughn and Gray are very average players it appears.
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Two CBs
Probably 3 new defensive linemen, barring ascendance from Poe or Powe. We have absolutely nothing at DE.
We're fine at receiver until we see how they change their play with a new QB. Well, that's how I see it anyway. I'd rather not burn a buttload of draftpicks on ****ing WRs. If we add any extras to our passing game, we should get a better TE. A MUCH better TE.

RB... again, let's see how much this offense changes when we switch up the QB. Don't care about this.

On the defensive line I completely agree, but how the hell are we supposed to fix this? We CAN'T draft more asshole defensive linemen in the first round.

Basically, I see our only glaring holes at ILB and S, both of which can and should be taken care of in the draft. After we get our QB, we're pretty much free to go BAA the rest of the way.

We just have to hope that the new GM isn't a ****ing fraud.
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that's exactly why it took so long to name a DC in '09
Because Pioli was so bullheaded that all he wanted to run was 2-gap. There are only a handful of guys who run that, and Romeo wasn't coming back to coaching that year.

Instead, he hired a guy in Clancy Pendergast who runs Gus Bradley's exact scheme he's now running in Seattle, and forced Pendergast to run a 2-gap defense that wasn't in his wheelhouse. How do we know that? Because Tyson Jackson is a prototypical 2-gapper.
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Because Pioli was so bullheaded that all he wanted to run was 2-gap. There are only a handful of guys who run that, and Romeo wasn't coming back to coaching that year.

Instead, he hired a guy in Clancy Pendergast who runs Gus Bradley's exact scheme he's now running in Seattle, and forced Pendergast to run a 2-gap defense that wasn't in his wheelhouse. How do we know that? Because Tyson Jackson is a prototypical 2-gapper.
I get it: You actually work for Pioli's Chiefs.

Clancy Pendergast ran the 31st ranked defense in Arizona for not one year, but two. He was a cluster**** of a hire but only you could provide the reach-around defense.

Idiot.
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Because Pioli was so bullheaded that all he wanted to run was 2-gap. There are only a handful of guys who run that, and Romeo wasn't coming back to coaching that year.

Instead, he hired a guy in Clancy Pendergast who runs Gus Bradley's exact scheme he's now running in Seattle, and forced Pendergast to run a 2-gap defense that wasn't in his wheelhouse. How do we know that? Because Tyson Jackson is a prototypical 2-gapper.
A GM should have no say on any coach except the head coach, unless it's extenuating circumstances (see : Greg Robinson)
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Tampa could do that shit because of their personel; everyone (except Indy) who tried to emulate the famed 'Tampa 2' failed (sound familiar).
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I get it: You actually work for Pioli's Chiefs.

Clancy Pendergast ran the 31st ranked defense in Arizona for not one year, but two. He was a cluster**** of a hire but only you could provide the reach-around defense.

Idiot.

I think the explanation was simpler; no one else was willing to take the job but Clancy.
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truth - the only way that bend-don't-break shit works is when you can get constant pass rush.

Tampa could do that shit because of their personel; everyone (except Indy) who tried to emulate the famed 'Tampa 2' failed (sound familiar).

**** a 2-gap defense. We don't have the pass rush, and no secondary depth - **** how did this happen!!!???
The 2-gap defense isn't as bad as everyone says, but I'd prefer we run 1-gap. Our defensive woes the last few games have a lot more to do with softness, poor scheme preparation, and lack of focus. Not as much of a talent issue.

A lot of our defensive problems will be fixed by just having a head coach who gets his players to play with discipline and intensity. Romeo was such a stupid hire for head coach, it's mind-numbing.
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