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Old 10-16-2012, 11:01 AM  
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KC already has a list of GM candidates to replace Pioli
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Despite rumors over weekend of Scott Pioli getting an extension, sources say KC already has a list of potential people to replace him as GM.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:41 PM   #226
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Same place, worse condition, though.

The young, bright talent on the squad is four years older, Romeo's defensive scheme will likely be scrapped (again), another OC will come in with yet another scheme, the fan base is in total revolt, the Chiefs image is in the toilet, and the players have had an additional four more years to establish and reinforce a losing mentality.

This isn't the kind of thing you turn around in a season or two.

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If the Chiefs draft a QB like Tannehill, Luck, Griffin, etc., it can be turned around quickly, especially if they don't have to give up any picks to do so.

Of course, that assumes a good draft and a competent coaching staff.

At this point, it's hard to believe both could be worse.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:44 PM   #227
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I agree though, we are basically in the exact same spot as before. Only thing that has really changed is that Arrowhead has lost some of its allure over the last few years. That can change in a hurry if we start winning again.
I'm certain that if Clark cleans house and the Chiefs draft a QB in the first round, 90% of the fan base will be re-energized for 2013 and beyond.

Only time will tell if those moves are made.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:47 PM   #228
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I'm certain that if Clark cleans house and the Chiefs draft a QB in the first round, 90% of the fan base will be re-energized for 2013 and beyond.

Only time will tell if those moves are made.
I agree. A good QB makes players better as well. Other changes aside, a good QB lets the defense play unafraid and lets the offense players relax and use their full abilities instead of trying to overcome bad QB play.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:08 PM   #229
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It's ok to be wrong as a fan, and as an owner. Every person makes mistakes and has a wrong opinion at times. It's a matter of being able to move forward and admit to mistakes that separates guys like Pioli from the majority of the fan base. Hopefully Clark is good at admitting mistakes. He's made one. Let's see if he can step up and fix it.
What's interesting is that Clark Hunt wanted to model the team after the Steelers. A lot of Pioli/Hunt's first year moves reflect that. A head coach from the Whisenhunt tree. A defensive coordinator from the Whisenhunt tree. initially, an offensive coordinator from the Cowher tree. All 3 were connected to the Steelers tree, and only one loosely connected to the Parcells tree.

So this team started on the path to the Steelers. I don't think Hunt even realizes how far off Pioli's philosophy is from the philosophy Hunt originally envisioned for his team.Hopefully he does now.
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What's interesting is that Clark Hunt wanted to model the team after the Steelers. A lot of Pioli/Hunt's first year moves reflect that. A head coach from the Whisenhunt tree. A defensive coordinator from the Whisenhunt tree. initially, an offensive coordinator from the Cowher tree. All 3 were connected to the Steelers tree, and only one loosely connected to the Parcells tree.

So this team started on the path to the Steelers. I don't think Hunt even realizes how far off Pioli's philosophy is from the philosophy Hunt originally envisioned for his team.Hopefully he does now.
The ONLY way to emulate the Steelers is for the owner(s) to be involved on a daily basis.

The Steelers are not run or owned by absentee owners. So until that happens, Clark is just blowing smoke.
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The ONLY way to emulate the Steelers is for the owner(s) to be involved on a daily basis.

The Steelers are not run or owned by absentee owners. So until that happens, Clark is just blowing smoke.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:30 PM   #233
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The ONLY way to emulate the Steelers is for the owner(s) to be involved on a daily basis.

The Steelers are not run or owned by absentee owners. So until that happens, Clark is just blowing smoke.
It worked well for Arizona, even with the Bidwells, who were viewed as incompetent until Whisenhunt turned the team around. If Dimitroff were the GM, I bet he would have built Haley a Steeler like offense and defense. I'm not talking about emulating the Steeler Way. I'm talking about emulating the system/scheme. Ironically, it's what Hunt wanted. It's what Haley wanted. But Pioli is so arrogant, he thinks there's only one way to do things.
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Clark will have his ducks in a row. Gauge interest in GM position. And if KC has a list of replacements. Pioli's a dead man walking. Just any day now that he'll be fired
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It worked well for Arizona, even with the Bidwells, who were viewed as incompetent until Whisenhunt turned the team around. If Dimitroff were the GM, I bet he would have built Haley a Steeler like offense and defense. I'm not talking about emulating the Steeler Way. I'm talking about emulating the system/scheme. Ironically, it's what Hunt wanted. It's what Haley wanted. But Pioli is so arrogant, he thinks there's only one way to do things.
Whatever.

Haley was a ****ing bozo. People seem to forget that the guy was an inferior game day coach to Herm.

Stop talking out of your ass.
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Whatever.

Haley was a ****ing bozo. People seem to forget that the guy was an inferior game day coach to Herm.

Stop talking out of your ass.
I really don't care about how he was as a game day coach. Our players were well conditioned, played with attitude, and played with discipline. These same players that do none of those things today.

Imagine if Haley was given the QB he wanted. If he was allowed to build the 1-gap 3-4 he wanted, and we all want now. If he had a front office that spent money on players. I don't know how good he really was. I just know he didn't get a fair shake.
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I really don't care about how he was as a game day coach. Our players were well conditioned, played with attitude, and played with discipline. These same players that do none of those things today.

Imagine if Haley was given the QB he wanted. If he was allowed to build the 1-gap 3-4 he wanted, and we all want now. If he had a front office that spent money on players. I don't know how good he really was. I just know he didn't get a fair shake.
You're not making sense, a horrible game day coach is a death sentence. Haley didn't make adjustments and was a horrible clock manager. Give a horrible game day coach a SB team and he will cost them as many games as he'll win them.
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I really don't care about how he was as a game day coach. Our players were well conditioned, played with attitude, and played with discipline. These same players that do none of those things today.
No.

We complained about the same things last season we did this season.

The only difference is this season is even worse...
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