Chiefs KC already has a list of GM candidates to replace Pioli - Page 17

Quesadilla Joe · 10-16-2012, 11:01 AM

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Despite rumors over weekend of Scott Pioli getting an extension, sources say KC already has a list of potential people to replace him as GM.

https://twitter.com/RUSSLANDE/status/258223806353649664

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2012, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I really don't care about how he was as a game day coach.

You're a ****ing idiot

chiefzilla1501 · 10-17-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WV

You're not making sense, a horrible game day coach is a death sentence. Haley didn't make adjustments and was a horrible clock manager. Give a horrible game day coach a SB team and he will cost them as many games as he'll win them.

Haley wasn't bad at making adjustments in the game, and most of the blame he gets for game management were due to being overly risky and not getting plays called in on time. But he took less risks in winning seasons and didn't have play calling problems when he had Weis as coordinator. Again... would have liked to have seen if he would have been a better game manager if the GM gave him a better situation to work in.

AussieChiefsFan · 10-17-2012, 12:09 AM

Wouldve loved Weis to stick around.

WV · 10-17-2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Haley wasn't bad at making adjustments in the game, and most of the blame he gets for game management were due to being overly risky and not getting plays called in on time. But he took less risks in winning seasons and didn't have play calling problems when he had Weis as coordinator. Again... would have liked to have seen if he would have been a better game manager if the GM gave him a better situation to work in.

I wanted to like Haley and did for a time a lot, but his halftime adjustments were non existent. You could point to his staff and spread the blame, but his petty ways of dealing with players and silly games were all on him. It may have been interesting to see him under a different regime, but I suspect he would have been the same ahole

**BossChief** · 10-17-2012, 12:20 AM

Under Haley, this team was devoid of minor injuries and were a very disciplined team that was well conditioned and didn't get a lot of penalties.

Since he was fired, all the tubs have stayed full and we are close to the league lead in penalties.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2012, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Under Haley, this team was devoid of minor injuries and were a very disciplined team that was well conditioned and didn't get a lot of penalties.

Since he was fired, all the tubs have stayed full and we are close to the league lead in penalties.

He was a great strength and conditioning coach.

And a shitty offensive coordinator and head coach.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-17-2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Under Haley, this team was devoid of minor injuries and were a very disciplined team that was well conditioned and didn't get a lot of penalties.

Since he was fired, all the tubs have stayed full and we are close to the league lead in penalties.

Romeo said a few days after Haley was fired that he was going to pull the team from the weight room and get them more film study. That makes a big difference.

As milkman always said, he was a flawed coach, but he showed enough good that we should have seen if he could grow his way into learning from those mistakes.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-17-2012, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He was a great strength and conditioning coach.

And a shitty offensive coordinator and head coach.

Nobody knows how good an offensive coordinator he was because he was crippled by our shitty quarterback. And we know clearly that he didn't want that shitty quarterback.

As a head coach, he had a lot to learn from a game management perspective. But I don't get the BS idea that he didn't make his players better. I don't know how anyone can compare his 2011 team to 2012 roster, see the same exact players turn into undisciplined ass clowns, and not acknowledge that Haley did a good job getting his players to play.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2012, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Nobody knows how good an offensive coordinator he was because he was crippled by our shitty quarterback. And we know clearly that he didn't want that shitty quarterback.

As a head coach, he had a lot to learn from a game management perspective. But I don't get the BS idea that he didn't make his players better. I don't know how anyone can compare his 2011 team to 2012 roster, see the same exact players turn into undisciplined ass clowns, and not acknowledge that Haley did a good job getting his players to play.

The great apologist strikes again.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-17-2012, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The great apologist strikes again.

A convenient comment when you have nothing to argue back.

Convenient that you consider talking about Haley, a guy we fired, and bashing the shit out of our current GM being an apologist. Especially after you've spent the past 2 days accusing me, for some bizarre reason, of being a Pioli apologist.

I am a Haley apologist. And I hate Pioli for it.

**BossChief** · 10-17-2012, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He was a great strength and conditioning coach.

And a shitty offensive coordinator and head coach.

How can you possibly call him a bad OC when he was handcuffed to Matt Cassel? He sure didn't have any problems with his coordinator responsibilities when he had QBs in the past.

I think time is gonna show you to be dead wrong about Haley, but who knows...maybe it's me that will end up wrong.

Chris Meck · 10-17-2012, 12:36 AM

I think it's pretty clear that Haley was not without some pretty serious flaws, notably game management.

I also think it's pretty clear that he fielded a much more disciplined and conditioned team-which kept that team competitive much further into games than we are seeing now.

I thought it was time for Haley to go; but I'll bet in a few years he'll get another shot and do a better job. Probably in Pittsburgh if that defense should falter, which was always his dream job anyway.

I'd like to see DeCosta come here. I'm not sure about a head coach, but what about someone like the 49'ers d-line coach for a defensive coordinator?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

A convenient comment when you have nothing to argue back.

Convenient that you consider talking about Haley, a guy we fired, and bashing the shit out of our current GM being an apologist. Especially after you've spent the past 2 days accusing me, for some bizarre reason, of being a Pioli apologist.

I am a Haley apologist. And I hate Pioli for it.

Nothing? Mike Goff over Wade Smith? Larry Johnson over Charles? Leonard Pope?

JFC, you really need to shut the **** up. Haley sucked.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2012, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

How can you possibly call him a bad OC when he was handcuffed to Matt CasseLLLL? He sure didn't have any problems with his coordinator responsibilities when he had QBs in the past.

I think time is gonna show you to be dead wrong about Haley, but who knows...maybe it's me that will end up wrong.

How? Proof in the pudding.

He's not exactly setting the world on fire in Pittsburgh, either.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-17-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Nothing? Mike Goff over Wade Smith? Larry Johnson over Charles? Leonard Pope?

JFC, you really need to shut the **** up. Haley sucked.

Every coach is guilty of playing a few of the wrong guys. If over 3 years, those are the only 3 you're going to point to, that's not a bad track record. Unbelievably petty to use those as some kind of criticism of the guy.

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Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1355090	I think it's pretty clear that Haley was not without some pretty serious flaws, notably game management. I also think it's pretty clear that he fielded a much more disciplined and conditioned team-which kept that team competitive much further into games than we are seeing now. I thought it was time for Haley to go; but I'll bet in a few years he'll get another shot and do a better job. Probably in Pittsburgh if that defense should falter, which was always his dream job anyway. I'd like to see DeCosta come here. I'm not sure about a head coach, but what about someone like the 49'ers d-line coach for a defensive coordinator?
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