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**Mr. Kotter** · 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM

Walter Football's Most recent write-up of Smith:

1/12/13: Smith started out 2012 on fire. He was a dominant force before getting shut down against Texas Tech and Kansas State. Smith played better in November even though West Virginia was in a losing streak.

Smith has completed 71 percent of his passes this season for 4,205 yards, 42 touchdowns and six interceptions. He had one of the most prolific games in college football history by completing 45-of-51 for 656 yards, eight touchdowns and zero interceptions against Baylor.

The senior signal-caller has an excellent skill set. He is showing his intelligence and field vision by working through his progressions and looking off safeties. Smith has some natural accuracy with good arm strength to make all the throws. He can fire some fastballs into tight windows with phenomenal ball placement to hit receivers in stride.

Smith's plus mobility allows him to pick up first downs with his feet and bail out his offensive line. He needs to work on sustaining drives as he struggled when Texas Tech and Kansas State took away the deep part of the field. Smith will need to improve his footwork for the NFL. He needs to become more uniform with good feet to get in rhythm.

Molitoth · 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

I quoted it because it was striking...and apparently only one misguided critics crappy opinion, I guess.

Yeah, I wasn't coming down on you for that... I know you were just quoting someone else there.

Regardless, I don't know what games that guy was watching. You can see beautiful deep chocolate balls in almost every Geno game this season.
And you won't see many inaccurate incompletions, considering his completion % is so high.

HolyHat · 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM

If USC had Geno Smith....HOLY SHIT BATMAN

**Mr. Kotter** · 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM

Barkley:

1/12/13: Barkley had a rough senior season that has caused his stock to decline. He never had an elite physical skill set, but the decision-making problems are the most worrisome. In Barkley's defense, his offensive line was horrible. He was under heat all season as USC really missed Matt Kalil.

Barkley completed 64 percent of his passes for 3,273 yards, 36 touchdowns and 15 interceptions in 2012. The senior didn't play well against Stanford or Washington, and was just average against California. He had underwhelming games versus UCLA and Arizona, too. Barkley injured his shoulder against the Bruins and was unable to play against Notre Dame or Georgia Tech.

8/16/12: Barkley proved himself to be a safe prospect during the 2011 season. He laid claim to the Trojans' starting quarterback position as a freshman and completed 59.9 percent of his passes for 2,735 yards and 15 touchdowns, but also threw 14 interceptions. In 12 games in 2010, the 6-foot-2, 220 pounder improved his production by completing 62.6 percent of his passes for 2,791 yards with 26 touchdowns and 12 interceptions.

Barkley had many prolific passing games as a junior in 2011, including throwing for six touchdown passes against UCLA and Colorado. He also led USC to a signature road win over Oregon. Barkley completed 69 percent of his passes for 3,528 yards with 39 touchdowns and only seven interceptions.

The senior's improved decision making is exactly the kind of progress NFL scouts will be pleased to see, plus he comes from a pro-style offense and has good intangibles. Barkley has mastered the West Coast offense and is well-prepared for the NFL.

jd1020 · 01-11-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by @KCsporting

If USC had Geno Smith....HOLY SHIT BATMAN

"No to USC QBs. They are all garbage."

**Mr. Kotter** · 01-11-2013, 02:06 PM

They haven't updated Wilson's yet:

8/16/12: Wilson completed 63 percent of his passes in 2011 for 3,638 yards with 24 touchdowns and six interceptions. The 6-foot-3, 220-pounder has good field vision, a strong arm and accuracy. He played better as the year progressed.

Wilson has the look of an NFL quarterback. He stands tall in the pocket and reads defenses well. The decision making the junior displayed last season was very impressive.

Wilson has a strong arm and is an accurate passer. He demonstrated the ability to push the ball outside the numbers in 2011, moving the ball down the field with precision passes. Wilson also has nice mobility to buy time or pick up yards on the ground. With his size, arm and intellect, he will most likely be viewed as a possible safe pick to scouts.

Wilson played a little bit in 2010 as a backup to Ryan Mallett. Wilson completed 34-of-51 passes for 453 yards with four touchdowns and three interceptions.

The 2012 season figures to be a challenging year for Wilson even though he received good preparation for the pro game from Bobby Petrino. Petrino has been fired and the Arkansas program is in turmoil. To make things harder, Wilson lost a bunch of good receivers.

**Easy 6** · 01-11-2013, 02:07 PM

at this thread.

The Reid honeymoon is OVER bitches!

Now lets get back to telling each other just how ****ing STUPID we are.

MIAdragon · 01-11-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

I've talked with some SC fans who would strongly disagree...

Of course they don't, they can will him to greatness all they want, but at the end of the day he is what he is, a Mark Cassel clone.

**Mr. Kotter** · 01-11-2013, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Yeah, I wasn't coming down on you for that... I know you were just quoting someone else there.

Regardless, I don't know what games that guy was watching. You can see beautiful deep chocolate balls in almost every Geno game this season.
And you won't see many inaccurate incompletions, considering his completion % is so high.

Walter references it a bit here:

Smith's plus mobility allows him to pick up first downs with his feet and bail out his offensive line. He needs to work on sustaining drives as he struggled when Texas Tech and Kansas State took away the deep part of the field. Smith will need to improve his footwork for the NFL. He needs to become more uniform with good feet to get in rhythm.

Molitoth · 01-11-2013, 02:08 PM

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He needs to work on sustaining drives as he struggled when Texas Tech and Kansas State took away the deep part of the field.

While I agree with this assessment, you have to take into consideration that Geno was playing from behind a LOT of time due to the terrible defense. He relied on the deep ball to get his team back into games quickly. TTech and Kstate game planned against this and that is why they got stomped.

Also, with Charles in the backfield and a good Chiefs running game, defenses are going to have to prepare for the run. Either Smith is going to eat up a defense with the deep pass, or Charles is in the run game. There will be no more stacking of the box.

DJ's left nut · 01-11-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

To me with Andy Reid right now, I think Barkley is going to be the target.

I wouldn't love it, but with Reid as the coach, Barkley would work.

I've said for awhile that Barkley's going to be a solid QB in this league but he will absolutely have to go to a WCO. Well Reid's his guy then.

On the other hand, Reid has generally favored a more aggressive WCO; it uses the hitches, outs, etc... to utilize all 4 intermediate zones, but he also likes to push the ball upfield to keep defenders honest.

To my eyes, he's the most aggressive of the WCO practitioners. Can Barkley really thrive if Reid is trying to push the ball downfield? Oh, and can we really use 1.1 on a guy who's shoulder may/may not be sound?

Barkley is a sensible option, but certainly not my favorite.

**ptlyon** · 01-11-2013, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free

at this thread.

The Reid honeymoon is OVER bitches!

Now lets get back to telling each other just how ****ing STUPID we are.

Back to old times! Just like Mcdonalds!

HolyHat · 01-11-2013, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Regardless, I don't know what games that guy was watching. You can see beautiful deep chocolate balls in almost every Geno game this season.

If you dont enjoy beautiful deep chocolate balls, you're a bad american.

**Baby Lee** · 01-11-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

I don't know why either party would want to. I just don't think Cassel is as gone as I thought he was before Reid was hired. His responses on that call indicated to me that he thinks the coaching was the problem moreso than the QBs themselves.

Bottom line, if Cassel stays I won't be shocked.

Show him the footage of upright doinks from a 20 yard Hail Mary, fleaflickers that wander right back up the center's butt, throwing directly into the oncoming pass rusher's shins, and ask him who exactly coached that.

ChiefsCountry · 01-11-2013, 02:20 PM

Yeah USC is so ****ing talented they can plug anybody in and still kick ass:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=323660059
14/37
107 yards
1 TD
3 INT

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=323290030
14/28
186 yards
1 TD
2 INT

USC went from scoring 39.7 to 10 a game without Barkley.
Passing yards went from 327.3 per game to 146.5.

But its all about the WRs that USC has. Any QB can step in and be a superstar.

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Mr. Kotter The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Dakota Country Casino cash: $3244285	Walter Football's Most recent write-up of Smith: 1/12/13: Smith started out 2012 on fire. He was a dominant force before getting shut down against Texas Tech and Kansas State. Smith played better in November even though West Virginia was in a losing streak. Smith has completed 71 percent of his passes this season for 4,205 yards, 42 touchdowns and six interceptions. He had one of the most prolific games in college football history by completing 45-of-51 for 656 yards, eight touchdowns and zero interceptions against Baylor. The senior signal-caller has an excellent skill set. He is showing his intelligence and field vision by working through his progressions and looking off safeties. Smith has some natural accuracy with good arm strength to make all the throws. He can fire some fastballs into tight windows with phenomenal ball placement to hit receivers in stride. Smith's plus mobility allows him to pick up first downs with his feet and bail out his offensive line. He needs to work on sustaining drives as he struggled when Texas Tech and Kansas State took away the deep part of the field. Smith will need to improve his footwork for the NFL. He needs to become more uniform with good feet to get in rhythm. __________________ "I've always said I worry about legacy and winning rings more than making money at this moment...We see what's going on around the league, but at the same time, I'll never do anything that's going to hurt us from keeping the great players around me.”
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01-11-2013, 02:05 PM	#244
Mr. Kotter The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Dakota Country Casino cash: $3244285	Barkley: 1/12/13: Barkley had a rough senior season that has caused his stock to decline. He never had an elite physical skill set, but the decision-making problems are the most worrisome. In Barkley's defense, his offensive line was horrible. He was under heat all season as USC really missed Matt Kalil. Barkley completed 64 percent of his passes for 3,273 yards, 36 touchdowns and 15 interceptions in 2012. The senior didn't play well against Stanford or Washington, and was just average against California. He had underwhelming games versus UCLA and Arizona, too. Barkley injured his shoulder against the Bruins and was unable to play against Notre Dame or Georgia Tech. 8/16/12: Barkley proved himself to be a safe prospect during the 2011 season. He laid claim to the Trojans' starting quarterback position as a freshman and completed 59.9 percent of his passes for 2,735 yards and 15 touchdowns, but also threw 14 interceptions. In 12 games in 2010, the 6-foot-2, 220 pounder improved his production by completing 62.6 percent of his passes for 2,791 yards with 26 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. Barkley had many prolific passing games as a junior in 2011, including throwing for six touchdown passes against UCLA and Colorado. He also led USC to a signature road win over Oregon. Barkley completed 69 percent of his passes for 3,528 yards with 39 touchdowns and only seven interceptions. The senior's improved decision making is exactly the kind of progress NFL scouts will be pleased to see, plus he comes from a pro-style offense and has good intangibles. Barkley has mastered the West Coast offense and is well-prepared for the NFL. __________________ "I've always said I worry about legacy and winning rings more than making money at this moment...We see what's going on around the league, but at the same time, I'll never do anything that's going to hurt us from keeping the great players around me.”
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01-11-2013, 02:06 PM	#246
Mr. Kotter The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Dakota Country Casino cash: $3244285	They haven't updated Wilson's yet: 8/16/12: Wilson completed 63 percent of his passes in 2011 for 3,638 yards with 24 touchdowns and six interceptions. The 6-foot-3, 220-pounder has good field vision, a strong arm and accuracy. He played better as the year progressed. Wilson has the look of an NFL quarterback. He stands tall in the pocket and reads defenses well. The decision making the junior displayed last season was very impressive. Wilson has a strong arm and is an accurate passer. He demonstrated the ability to push the ball outside the numbers in 2011, moving the ball down the field with precision passes. Wilson also has nice mobility to buy time or pick up yards on the ground. With his size, arm and intellect, he will most likely be viewed as a possible safe pick to scouts. Wilson played a little bit in 2010 as a backup to Ryan Mallett. Wilson completed 34-of-51 passes for 453 yards with four touchdowns and three interceptions. The 2012 season figures to be a challenging year for Wilson even though he received good preparation for the pro game from Bobby Petrino. Petrino has been fired and the Arkansas program is in turmoil. To make things harder, Wilson lost a bunch of good receivers. __________________ "I've always said I worry about legacy and winning rings more than making money at this moment...We see what's going on around the league, but at the same time, I'll never do anything that's going to hurt us from keeping the great players around me.”
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01-11-2013, 02:20 PM	#255
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1591248	Yeah USC is so ****ing talented they can plug anybody in and still kick ass: http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=323660059 14/37 107 yards 1 TD 3 INT http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=323290030 14/28 186 yards 1 TD 2 INT USC went from scoring 39.7 to 10 a game without Barkley. Passing yards went from 327.3 per game to 146.5. But its all about the WRs that USC has. Any QB can step in and be a superstar.
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