Chiefs Chiefs have an OT in the building! - Page 9

RunKC · 03-15-2013, 05:42 AM

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Chiefs staying busy, visiting today with Vikings free-agent OT Geoff Schwartz, whom they are expected to sign.

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**DaKCMan AP** · 03-15-2013, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo

I would bet good money they are bringing him in to be a OG and not a RT. It is quite apparent the Chiefs view Allen as not a starter this point in his career. Much like Stephenson as the swing tackle, it might not hurt having a quality swing guard in Allen to back-up Schwartz and Asamoah. I know having that many quality OL is a new concept to us but Reid is big on his lineman.

I have to say this constant talk of Geno is still mind boggling... HE ISN'T GOING TO BE DRAFTED BY KC!!! Blast away but it makes no sense in bringing him in now when the organization seems totally committed to Alex Smith. We wouldn't pay the money we did for a back-up like Daniel if we were to still bring in Geno.

Not saying we're drafting Geno, but why would a backup QB on what's essentially a 1-year deal prevent them from drafting a QB #1 overall?

**The Franchise** · 03-15-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Not saying we're drafting Geno, but why would a backup QB on what's essentially a 1-year deal prevent them from drafting a QB #1 overall?

This.

suds79 · 03-15-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Not saying we're drafting Geno, but why would a backup QB on what's essentially a 1-year deal prevent them from drafting a QB #1 overall?

I think they'll end up signing Alex to an extension (sound familiar?).

I know, I know. Nails on the chalkboard but I just don't see why you would give up everything you did at QB to then take a guy #1 overall who should start from day 1.

1.1s don't do that.

Chiefshrink · 03-15-2013, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

The way teams overpay for tackles I want a first

It may happen my friend.

I would much rather have Vollmer at LT than Albert at this point. Vollmer is better and far more durable.

You definitely could get a 1st from DaKCManAP.

**The Franchise** · 03-15-2013, 08:31 AM

Is there an unwritten rule why QBs have to start from day 1? That shit only started happening because a team invested $70 million in a guy. You dont have to now.....especially when you have a capable veteran who can start instead.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-15-2013, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

I think they'll end up signing Alex to an extension (sound familiar?).

I know, I know. Nails on the chalkboard but I just don't see why you would give up everything you did at QB to then take a guy #1 overall who should start from day 1.

1.1s don't do that.

It's not that different from the Skins taking RG3 @ #2 and then Cousins in rd 4.

Smith @ 1.1 and Smith in rd 2, the difference of course being ASmith starting while Cousins was a b/u.

The Redskins also had Rex Grossman (9yr vet at the time) on the roster, probably one of the better backups in the league.

**The Franchise** · 03-15-2013, 08:34 AM

I bet Dorsey and Albert are waiting to see what Jake Long gets. If Long gets less than or equal to what Brown got.....I bet Albert signs before the draft.

DJ's left nut · 03-15-2013, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Is there an unwritten rule why QBs have to start from day 1? That shit only started happening because a team invested $70 million in a guy. You dont have to now.....especially when you have a capable veteran who can start instead.

A little bit.

It does seem to be a rule now that a starting QB in this league can expect $15 million/yr in his second contract if he's worth a shit. Well if you're looking to maximize your return, you want to get as much value out of that rookie contract as possible before you start paying for past performance in the 2nd deal.

I agree, it's easier to sit a QB than it's ever been, but it's still not terribly cost effective.

If you're Reid and you like Alex Smith, you'd be smarter to hold this pick for ransom than to take Geno Smith. At this point, while you may not get an RGIII haul, you'll probably be able to get close to it (probably one lest first rounder than the Rams got).

That has the potential to be far FAR more valuable to this franchise than Geno Smith. But you'd better be right about both Smith's at that point.

It becomes a scouting question.

suds79 · 03-15-2013, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

It's not that different from the Skins taking RG3 @ #2 and then Cousins in rd 4.

Smith @ 1.1 and Smith in rd 2, the difference of course being ASmith starting while Cousins was a b/u.

The Redskins also had Rex Grossman (9yr vet at the time) on the roster, probably one of the better backups in the league.

I hear ya. And I hope you're right.

I just think we're grasping at straws a little here. I'd put the chances of them taking Geno and him being apart of their plans to be the QB at about 5%.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-15-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I bet Dorsey and Albert are waiting to see what Jake Long gets. If Long gets less than or equal to what Brown got.....I bet Albert signs before the draft.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-15-2013, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

I hear ya. And I hope you're right.

I just think we're grasping at straws a little here. I'd put the chances of them taking Geno and him being apart of their plans to be the QB at about 5%.

I don't disagree that it's unlikely. I just disagree with those saying it can't happen, doesn't make sense, or that it's unprecedented.

KC_Lee · 03-15-2013, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Is there an unwritten rule why QBs have to start from day 1? That shit only started happening because a team invested $70 million in a guy. You dont have to now.....especially when you have a capable veteran who can start instead.

See the Tennesee Titans.

Draft Jake Locker in first round, accquire Matt Hasselback to start, let rookie ride pine for a year.

While the jury is still out on Locker (multiple reasons for that) the situation that Pestilence calls out is a viable one.

suds79 · 03-15-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

See the Tennesee Titans.

Draft Jake Locker in first round, accquire Matt Hasselback to start, let rookie ride pine for a year.

While the jury is still out on Locker (multiple reasons for that) the situation that Pestilence calls out is a viable one.

Right but we're talking about the number 1 overall pick here in relation to us.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-15-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That has the potential to be far FAR more valuable to this franchise than Geno Smith. But you'd better be right about both Smith's at that point.

It becomes a scouting question.

Yes. However, to me the value is equal to drafting OT @ #1. We have Albert at LT. We have a guy who can potentially play RT (Stephenson/Allen). You can also sign a RT in FA or draft one outside of rd 1.

If you're looking at immediate value the pick, IMO, has to be DL. Like it or not.

**The Franchise** · 03-15-2013, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Right but we're talking about the number 1 overall pick here in relation to us.

So....

He's not needed to be the immediate savior of this team. Draft him and sit him for a year.

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