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Old 04-25-2013, 08:04 PM  
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:18 AM   #601
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If I was Geno, I would show up tomorrow in sweats, bring some Cheetos and pizza, and a little TV to watch the draft. I'd slouch back and put on a team's baseball hat every time their pick comes up. You could get a nation to love you by doing that.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:19 AM   #602
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It could simply just mean that teams don't view these Qb's as day 1 starters, and that's fine. Everyone around here wants to act like all of these QB's are busts because they didn't go in round 1. Pretty funny.
I was called a racist mom raper because I said he isn't #1 pick worthy, and not even sure first round worthy. Just thought I'd come back and say boy there really are some genius folk around here. For 1 calling me a racist mom raper. And 2 being right.

I actually think Geno will be a "decent" QB somewhere, but a mom rapist because he isnt #1? C'mon!!!
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:20 AM   #603
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That's where our philosophical difference lies. First I don't think Fisher's a stud (or Joeckel or Johnson). I think they're middling prospects available anywhere from 15 to 45 in every draft. Although that's really neither here nor there. Second, I think a 'mediocre,' as you put it, quarterback prospect has more draft value than a good line prospect, because the upside value potential is so much greater. Basically I think positional value is a real and key thing.

Obviously the league disagrees with me, but the league is also slow to change and extremely risk averse. Whereas I have nothing to lose if a player I like doesn't pan out.

And I think everyone is making the same mistake they always make at draft time, judging these picks immediately. You judge these picks in 4 or 5 years, as the players head into their second contracts. If Fisher's an all pro, it turns out that the pick was okay (I don't think I'll ever call it 'great', it's such a meh position to draft #1). If Joeckel or Johnson's a better tackle, then we picked the wrong horse. If Geno never sees the field, the league was right, and if he's a pro bowler, the league was wrong.
I agree. This was a safe pick for new leadership that is walking on pins and needles after what the SOC movement did. Another win now mode.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:21 AM   #604
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The people who still think football is primarily won in the trenches are living in the 1960's. You can't win games with a historically bad O-line like the Chargers, Eagles, or Cardinals have, but a dominant O-line is a waste of money that needs to be spent on skill positions.
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If I was Geno, I would show up tomorrow in sweats, bring some Cheetos and pizza, and a little TV to watch the draft. I'd slouch back and put on a team's baseball hat every time their pick comes up. You could get a nation to love you by doing that.
Include a case of Old Milwaukee and you're set.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:21 AM   #606
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I was called a racist mom raper because I said he isn't #1 pick worthy, and not even sure first round worthy. Just thought I'd come back and say boy there really are some genius folk around here. For 1 calling me a racist mom raper. And 2 being right.

I actually think Geno will be a "decent" QB somewhere, but a mom rapist because he isnt #1? C'mon!!!
So you're a racist?
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:22 AM   #607
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The "Genoites" blabbed and fired away all offseason. With last nights events, the anti geno guys were on full force. You knew it was coming.


However, if Geno does infact go on to be a successful QB somewhere other than KC, the "Genoites" will get their day in the sun.
If he doesn't will the "Genoites" admit they are wrong?
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:24 AM   #608
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If he doesn't will the "Genoites" admit they are wrong?
Frankly even if he goes somewhere else and is successful, or goes on to suck, you can't say either they were wrong or right.


Circumstances are different in each place.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:24 AM   #609
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Probably not, but If the Qb's continue to slide, we could end up seeing a guy like Bray or Wilson get picked up in the 5th.
I'd be cool with Brays raw talent at five.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:25 AM   #610
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It could simply just mean that teams don't view these Qb's as day 1 starters, and that's fine. Everyone around here wants to act like all of these QB's are busts because they didn't go in round 1. Pretty funny.
Which is exactly why they traded for Alex Smith rather than wasting the next 2 years of JC, Bowe, DJ, and Hali who are all in their prime or heading down the backside of their prime.

If you use logic, its not that difficult to understand.
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It could simply just mean that teams don't view these Qb's as day 1 starters, and that's fine. Everyone around here wants to act like all of these QB's are busts because they didn't go in round 1. Pretty funny.
Well so far Manuel has been labeled a reach and a bust in the making while pre-draft Geno was a sure fire stud.
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If he doesn't will the "Genoites" admit they are wrong?
No, because once again, it's not about Geno. It's about the philosophy of developing your own QB. Attacks on Geno Smith are just a deflection for the real issue at hand; the Chiefs are allergic to developing their own QB and so is their fan base.

And you know what? Next year will be a repeat of this year, which was a repeat of last year, which was a repeat of the year before that. The only difference, you'll call us "Bridgwaterites" instead of "Genoites".
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Frankly even if he goes somewhere else and is successful, or goes on to suck, you can't say either they were wrong or right.


Circumstances are different in each place.
That's a load of crap. A franchise QB will succeed no matter where they go, that the point of a franchise QB. "Franchise".
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Frankly even if he goes somewhere else and is successful, or goes on to suck, you can't say either they were wrong or right.


Circumstances are different in each place.
But if he succeeds you know as well as I do the "Genoites" will be the first with the "I told you so" posts regardless of how he might have performed here (you know different circumstances). Will they openly eat crow if he busts regardless of circumstances?
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