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Old 07-23-2013, 07:24 PM  
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Go on record: What will make the Reid regime a success?
So what will make you happy with the Reid hire?
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:53 PM   #166
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It illustrates the incompetence of this franchise that only two head coaches have won playoff games in 50 years.
I understand that Dane.

But better than bad doesn't equal good...or success in this case
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:56 PM   #167
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I think there are or should be viewed as different levels of success. I like Milkmans take that it could potentially be viewed as neither, but I think it's more than that.

If we win a SB on his watch? Ultimate success

We are SB contenders but (as Chiefs fans would know) get our hearts ripped out a few times by just getting beat by a team that was better? Successful.

They win a playoff game or two (Wildcard)? Yeah, unsuccessful.
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:57 PM   #168
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If Andy Reid wins a single playoff game in the next five years, he'll have done what only two other coaches have been able to accomplish in 50 years. I think that's significant.

But even more to the point, look at a guy like Mike Smith in Atlanta. I don't think there's anyone that would argue the Chiefs have better personnel or coaching yet in the past five years, the Falcons have won exactly one playoff game.

One.

So all of this bluster of "Super Bowl or Bust" is just slightly off the mark.
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:57 PM   #169
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It illustrates the incompetence of this franchise that only two head coaches have won playoff games in 50 years.
Jesus ****ing christ that's depressing.
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:59 PM   #171
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Productive QB play.

Also, I was looking at the Bengals roster and if Reid decides to get a stable of pass rushers like this, then that might help.

Michael Johnson, Dunlap, Gillberry, Hunt, Atkins, Still, Harrison.

So far we've got Tamba and Houston.
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If Andy Reid wins a single playoff game in the next five years, he'll have done what only two other coaches have been able to accomplish in 50 years. I think that's significant.

But even more to the point, look at a guy like Mike Smith in Atlanta. I don't think there's anyone that would argue the Chiefs have better personnel or coaching yet in the past five years, the Falcons have won exactly one playoff game.

One.

So all of this bluster of "Super Bowl or Bust" is just slightly off the mark.
Like you said, I think it's significant for the Chiefs franchise, but more because of how shitty we've actually been.

I don't think you view 1 playoff win in 5 years necessarily a success in that it also goes the other way, especially when you think that a Tim Tebow led team won a playoff game.
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I think there are or should be viewed as different levels of success. I like Milkmans take that it could potentially be viewed as neither, but I think it's more than that.

If we win a SB on his watch? Ultimate success

We are SB contenders but (as Chiefs fans would know) get our hearts ripped out a few times by just getting beat by a team that was better? Successful.

They win a playoff game or two (Wildcard)? Yeah, unsuccessful.
A playoff win would be significant. Multiple playoff wins would be more significant.

This team has had a winning percentage of .314 over the last 15 seasons.

In what world would multiple playoff victories be viewed as unsuccessful?
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Productive QB play.

Also, I was looking at the Bengals roster and if Reid decides to get a stable of pass rushers like this, then that might help.

Michael Johnson, Dunlap, Gillberry, Hunt, Atkins, Still, Harrison.

So far we've got Tamba and Houston.
With the deal Dunlap got, theres talk that Johnson is likely gone next year, would he fit here?
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Productive QB play.

Also, I was looking at the Bengals roster and if Reid decides to get a stable of pass rushers like this, then that might help.

Michael Johnson, Dunlap, Gillberry, Hunt, Atkins, Still, Harrison.

So far we've got Tamba and Houston.
I hope Catapano and Poe exceed expectations this year.
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A playoff win would be significant. Multiple playoff wins would be more significant.

This team has had a winning percentage of .314 over the last 15 seasons.

In what world would multiple playoff victories be viewed as unsuccessful?
As bad as it's sucked, the past doesn't really matter at this point does it?

Like I said in regards to Tebow, if they win a WC game like that, being a team that's obviously a fraud and never really build towards anything significant, I don't think it's a success.


It's not really black and white though, so it's tough to judge.
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A playoff win would be significant. Multiple playoff wins would be more significant.

This team has had a winning percentage of .314 over the last 15 seasons.

In what world would multiple playoff victories be viewed as unsuccessful?
Buffalo, Philly, etc.
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With the deal Dunlap got, theres talk that Johnson is likely gone next year, would he fit here?
Haven't really watched him play much. It'd be a new transition for him to a 3-4 iirc.
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Honestly, after the past 7 years, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't call it a success if he just made it exciting and tolerable to watch.


And thats extremely sad.
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