Chiefs Preseason observations - Week #2 - Page 4

chiefzilla1501 · 08-17-2013, 10:37 AM

Didn't watch the game as in-depth as I did week 1. Frankly, when the second unit got on the field, I got a little bit bored.

OFFENSE

I had no problem with Alex Smith in week 1. This game, we saw a LOT more of the Alex Smith many of us were concerned about. Missed too many blitz pickups, held the ball too long when he wanted to go deeper, gave up on the pass too quickly in others. Not a good week for him.
Eric Fisher. JFC, guys. I get that he wasn't the guy many of us wanted at 1.1. I didn't either. But calling him a pussy for nursing a finger injury... it's really sad that people are wanting so badly for this guy to be terrible. The truth is, the injury doesn't matter, because he played through it and he played fine. He got beat once on a speed rush, and was beat twice because it was a coverage sack. He played well enough for a preseason rookie against an elite defense, injury or not.
If anything, I wasn't impressed at all with the interior blocking today. Jeff Allen, in particular, was mediocre
I was wrong about Knile Davis. Excellent game today. However, still a legit question about whether he is a pure space runner. He knows how to attack when there's a good size opening, but still unsure if he's powerful enough to break a wall or nifty enough to juke your way through a narrow hole
Cyrus Gray played his way out of a job. He was terrible. Inexcusable drop with the first team, no burst, no agility, and was the only return guy in 2 games to look useless. At least with Draughn, I see some acceleration and power
It dithgusts me that Baldwin is getting that many snaps. I don't want to see him in a Chiefs uniform. He is stealing reps from Avery and Hemmingway, who should be competing for that #2 spot with Baldwin nowhere in that picture
Chase Daniel - better, but it's going to be a problem if he starts. Horrible blitz recognition. Last week, very frazzled under pressure. This week, ran a checkdown heavy offense
Tyler Bray / Stanzi - Stanzi should be the backup and he should have gotten reps last year. Sadly, neither of those will happen and we'll never really know what we had in him. Bray... I took a lot of shit for suggesting the kid should be on the practice squad. I like the potential, but has a very, very long way to go. Looked extremely frazzled when pressured
Travis Kelce... man, had high hopes for the kid. Two inexcusable drops already this preseason on limited snaps.

DEFENSE

Defensive Line was solid. Poe didn't dominate like he did in Game 1, but he was very effective at driving his blocker. Tyson Jackson played a much better game too. On run defense, he was definitely moving his guy and looked like he was getting an upper hand. Good improvement
We wanted aggressive, and we're getting it. I'm worried if we're too aggressive. Too many plays where we overpursued. Teams that bootleg, counter, and cutback are going to break some big runs if we don't knock that shit off.
We've been playing vanilla offenses. I also fear that this aggressive approach is going to make us suckers for playaction and draws
Akeem Jordan has played solid. He hasn't played his way out of a job. But man, Nico Johnson has earned a right to get first team snaps. He was a man amongst boys with the second unit.
Allen Bailey needs to get snaps this year. He has to become more consistent, but the potential is there. There were a few drives where his strength is just unreal. Just bulldozes his blocker into the backfield
We are getting a small glimpse of how awesome Eric Berry could be this year. He's going to play a lot of positions, from LB to Nickel to SS to FS to FS in a 46. And we saw several instances where he just missiled through a gap. He looks like an entirely different player this year
I actually think our D-line played well in the pass rush. As 2-gap, they were occupying blockers and driving the pile more than I'm used to. I think that will really show once we dial up the blitz
Sean Smith is definitely taking to the bump-and-run. It's really hard to tell what we have in our other guys. What scares me is that Sutton seems to like playing his safeties in some nickel coverages, and in other cases, play them at pure Centerfield like a 46. I think Lewis is going to be a huge liability this year. He just hasn't been tested.
Hard to believe we're saying this, but we have strong safety and d-line depth. The problem is that in both cases, we have starters who would be good backups.

TEX · 08-18-2013, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I missed the game unfortunately, but it looks Smythe got punked.

7/16 for 62? yeah, pretty bad... but its preseason and i'm not going to panic until that starts happening in regular season games.

With 3 perfect drive - extending passes dropped... Not to mention very poor pass protection. Smith had some issues no doubt, but his were not the most glaring.

SDChiefs · 08-18-2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I swear some people easily forget that they were playing the SF backups for damn near the entire time.

I can't wait til Stanzi is cut so we can stop listening to the Stanzi nuthuggers talk about him as if he has a future in the NFL. He's been on this team for 3 ****ing years and hasn't progressed one bit. Did you not see him get completely destroyed in the backup battle last year by Brady ****ing Quinn?

well rac is sterling when it comes to coaching and depth chart matters. i mean no in the league thought cassel could start on an arena team but rac had news for them. in 1 preseason game stanzi has already looked better than cassel in 4 years.

SDChiefs · 08-18-2013, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Wasn't Draughn the guy who completely whiffed on a blitzer to cause one of the 7 sacks?

yes 1 time. hes human.

TEX · 08-18-2013, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs

well rac is sterling when it comes to coaching and depth chart matters. i mean no in the league thought cassel could start on an arena team but rac had news for them. in 1 preseason game stanzi has already looked better than cassel in 4 years.

Not even remotely true. Matt once completed a couple passes in a row in a real game.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-18-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs

well rac is sterling when it comes to coaching and depth chart matters. i mean no in the league thought cassel could start on an arena team but rac had news for them. in 1 preseason game stanzi has already looked better than cassel in 4 years.

It is sad but slimy, but there is no doubt RAC and Pioli refused to start Stanzi last year in order to save their jobs. That makes me really angry. Good chance Stanzi would have blown the audition, but at least we cut him knowing what we had.

TEX · 08-18-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It is sad but slimy, but there is no doubt RAC and Pioli refused to start Stanzi last year in order to save their jobs. That makes me really angry. Good chance Stanzi would have blown the audition, but at least we cut him knowing what we had.

I hear ya but you don't have to step in dog shit to know what it is..."COME ON MAN!"

**Buehler445** · 08-18-2013, 10:36 AM

Didn't get to see much of the game. Was trying to listen to it while I was going in and out of the sprayer.

Sounded like Nico Johnson played well. That is outstanding. We have a pretty good hole to fill there. Was he as good as he sounded on the radio?

How did my adopt a chief Bradley McDougald look?

Rasputin · 08-18-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Didn't get to see much of the game. Was trying to listen to it while I was going in and out of the sprayer.

Sounded like Nico Johnson played well. That is outstanding. We have a pretty good hole to fill there. Was he as good as he sounded on the radio?

How did my adopt a chief Bradley McDougald look?

Ya know Nico Johnson is in a really good spot he is lined up between #50 Houston and #56 Johnson so he did good job contributing. I think he is going learn a great deal from DJ and Houston. From what I saw got me excited for the kid but I don't know much about him. I think he is going be solid.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-18-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I missed the game unfortunately, but it looks Smythe got punked.

7/16 for 62? yeah, pretty bad... but its preseason and i'm not going to panic until that starts happening in regular season games.

Smith's numbers were poor due to multiple drops by his receivers. He was placing the ball accurately, where only the receiver could catch it and while it hit them right in the hands, they couldn't hold on.

Baldwin is worthless. Gray is a very poor receiver. Kelce should have had a fairly easy TD.

The GREAT Brandon Albert looked like shit. Fisher allowed men to get around him and pressure Smith. The offensive line had quite a bit of difficulty with the pass rush and pressure.

The bottom line is that Smith looked fine. His passes were crisp and accurate. The offense moved the chains. The defense was beasting. And Knile Davis took a huge leap from week one to week two.

Rasputin · 08-18-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Ya know Nico Johnson is in a really good spot he is lined up between #50 Houston and #56 Johnson so he did good job contributing. I think he is going learn a great deal from DJ and Houston. From what I saw got me excited for the kid but I don't know much about him. I think he is going be solid.

On this note I'm excited about the blitz packages I keep hearing about with Suttons attack defense.

**Rausch** · 08-18-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It is sad but slimy, but there is no doubt RAC and Pioli refused to start Stanzi last year in order to save their jobs.

Mostly because he's a total $3it QB...

philfree · 08-18-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Smith's numbers were poor due to multiple drops by his receivers. He was placing the ball accurately, where only the receiver could catch it and while it hit them right in the hands, they couldn't hold on.

Baldwin is worthless. Gray is a very poor receiver. Kelce should have had a fairly eay TD.

The GREAT Brandon Albert looked like shit. Fisher allowed men to get around him and pressure Smith. The offensive line had quite a bit of difficulty with the pass rush and pressure.

The bottom line is that Smith looked fine. His passes were crisp and accurate. The offense moved the chains. The defending was beasting. And Knile Davis took a huge leap from week one to week two.

How dare you post this on this forum. What are you some kind of commie or something.

Fritz88 · 08-18-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Smith's numbers were poor due to multiple drops by his receivers. He was placing the ball accurately, where only the receiver could catch it and while it hit them right in the hands, they couldn't hold on.

Baldwin is worthless. Gray is a very poor receiver. Kelce should have had a fairly eay TD.

The GREAT Brandon Albert looked like shit. Fisher allowed men to get around him and pressure Smith. The offensive line had quite a bit of difficulty with the pass rush and pressure.

The bottom line is that Smith looked fine. His passes were crisp and accurate. The offense moved the chains. The defending was beasting. And Knile Davis took a huge leap from week one to week two.

Baldwin had to easy first downs dropped.

I am not sure if Reid wanted to target Baldwin or if the 9ers covered Bowe.
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Rasputin · 08-18-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Mostly because he's a total $3it QB...

Yes he is, but maybe Reid and Dorsey would have enough game tape on him to cut him this offseason and he wouldn't be wasting their time or taking reps from others @ camp?

**Rausch** · 08-18-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Yes he is, but maybe Reid and Dorsey would have enough game tape on him to cut him this offseason and he wouldn't be wasting or taking reps from others @ camp?

If this HC/GM aren't smart enough to evaluate talent they deserve to be fired...

08-17-2013, 10:37 AM
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $1674497	Preseason observations - Week #2 Didn't watch the game as in-depth as I did week 1. Frankly, when the second unit got on the field, I got a little bit bored. OFFENSE I had no problem with Alex Smith in week 1. This game, we saw a LOT more of the Alex Smith many of us were concerned about. Missed too many blitz pickups, held the ball too long when he wanted to go deeper, gave up on the pass too quickly in others. Not a good week for him. Eric Fisher. JFC, guys. I get that he wasn't the guy many of us wanted at 1.1. I didn't either. But calling him a pussy for nursing a finger injury... it's really sad that people are wanting so badly for this guy to be terrible. The truth is, the injury doesn't matter, because he played through it and he played fine. He got beat once on a speed rush, and was beat twice because it was a coverage sack. He played well enough for a preseason rookie against an elite defense, injury or not. If anything, I wasn't impressed at all with the interior blocking today. Jeff Allen, in particular, was mediocre I was wrong about Knile Davis. Excellent game today. However, still a legit question about whether he is a pure space runner. He knows how to attack when there's a good size opening, but still unsure if he's powerful enough to break a wall or nifty enough to juke your way through a narrow hole Cyrus Gray played his way out of a job. He was terrible. Inexcusable drop with the first team, no burst, no agility, and was the only return guy in 2 games to look useless. At least with Draughn, I see some acceleration and power It dithgusts me that Baldwin is getting that many snaps. I don't want to see him in a Chiefs uniform. He is stealing reps from Avery and Hemmingway, who should be competing for that #2 spot with Baldwin nowhere in that picture Chase Daniel - better, but it's going to be a problem if he starts. Horrible blitz recognition. Last week, very frazzled under pressure. This week, ran a checkdown heavy offense Tyler Bray / Stanzi - Stanzi should be the backup and he should have gotten reps last year. Sadly, neither of those will happen and we'll never really know what we had in him. Bray... I took a lot of shit for suggesting the kid should be on the practice squad. I like the potential, but has a very, very long way to go. Looked extremely frazzled when pressured Travis Kelce... man, had high hopes for the kid. Two inexcusable drops already this preseason on limited snaps. DEFENSE Defensive Line was solid. Poe didn't dominate like he did in Game 1, but he was very effective at driving his blocker. Tyson Jackson played a much better game too. On run defense, he was definitely moving his guy and looked like he was getting an upper hand. Good improvement We wanted aggressive, and we're getting it. I'm worried if we're too aggressive. Too many plays where we overpursued. Teams that bootleg, counter, and cutback are going to break some big runs if we don't knock that shit off. We've been playing vanilla offenses. I also fear that this aggressive approach is going to make us suckers for playaction and draws Akeem Jordan has played solid. He hasn't played his way out of a job. But man, Nico Johnson has earned a right to get first team snaps. He was a man amongst boys with the second unit. Allen Bailey needs to get snaps this year. He has to become more consistent, but the potential is there. There were a few drives where his strength is just unreal. Just bulldozes his blocker into the backfield We are getting a small glimpse of how awesome Eric Berry could be this year. He's going to play a lot of positions, from LB to Nickel to SS to FS to FS in a 46. And we saw several instances where he just missiled through a gap. He looks like an entirely different player this year I actually think our D-line played well in the pass rush. As 2-gap, they were occupying blockers and driving the pile more than I'm used to. I think that will really show once we dial up the blitz Sean Smith is definitely taking to the bump-and-run. It's really hard to tell what we have in our other guys. What scares me is that Sutton seems to like playing his safeties in some nickel coverages, and in other cases, play them at pure Centerfield like a 46. I think Lewis is going to be a huge liability this year. He just hasn't been tested. Hard to believe we're saying this, but we have strong safety and d-line depth. The problem is that in both cases, we have starters who would be good backups.
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Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $1884734	Didn't get to see much of the game. Was trying to listen to it while I was going in and out of the sprayer. Sounded like Nico Johnson played well. That is outstanding. We have a pretty good hole to fill there. Was he as good as he sounded on the radio? How did my adopt a chief Bradley McDougald look?
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