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Chiefs’ Eric Fisher determined to bounce back after miserable half at Philadelphia

Chiefs’ Eric Fisher determined to bounce back after miserable half at Philadelphia
By TEREZ A. PAYLOR
The Kansas City Star
By the time the first half of the Chiefs’ 26-16 win over Philadelphia was over Thursday, you could understand if Eric Fisher was a little discouraged.

Sure, the Chiefs led by 10 points. But but Fisher, the rookie right tackle who was taken No. 1 overall in April’s NFL Draft, committed one holding penalty and was beaten for a sack and two hurries by Eagles linebacker Connor Barwin and defensive end Fletcher Cox in 22 first-half passing attempts by quarterback Alex Smith.

It was, perhaps, the worst half of Fisher’s three-game professional career. Pro Football Focus, which grades every NFL player in every game, assigned Fisher a three-game grade of minus-6.7, which ranks worst on the Chiefs and and 52nd out of 55 NFL tackles who have played 75 percent of their team’s snaps.

Fisher, however, is hardly the only highly touted rookie tackle dealing with a learning curve. Pro Football Focus has also assigned negative grades to the four other right tackles drafted in the first round: Jacksonville’s Luke Joeckel ranks 36th at minus-1.9 and Philadelphia’s Lane Johnson and the New York Giants’ Justin Pugh are tied for 48th at minus-5.2. San Diego’s D.J. Fluker has only played two games due to a concussion, but checks in at minus-1.4.

“It’s been tough mentally, physically, emotionally,” Fisher said of his adjustment to the NFL. “You’ve just got to keep your composure. There’s a lot that comes with this game and you roll with the punches.”

Fortunately for the Chiefs, Fisher seemed to do just that in the second half against the Eagles. He was called for one more penalty — a hold on Cox during a running play — but didn’t allow another sack, hit or hurry in 13 pass attempts. He was also a part of an offensive line that helped the Chiefs rush for 98 yards in 21 carries during the second half, effectively putting the Eagles away.

Chiefs coach Andy Reid lauded Fisher, 22, for hanging tough and showing flashes, despite his somewhat uneven transition from left to right tackle.

“I appreciate his effort out here,” Reid said. “He’s just trying to do everything the right way and he battles. Sometimes he gets in awkward positions, and he has the athletic ability and fights his way out of it. It’s not the prettiest picture, but it ends up being a productive play and I appreciate that from him. That you can work with as a coach.”

Reid said the Chiefs will also be able to bulk up Fisher’s 6-foot-7, 306-pound frame.

“Normally they put on about 10 pounds by the time you get to the next season, and he’ll do that,” Reid said, “He has a big frame that he can add some weight to. He’ll get in the weight room with Barry (Rubin) and he’ll have a whole year to do that part.”

Reid, however, stopped short of saying the extra strength alone would rectify some of the negative plays Fisher has made.

“I don’t think it’s all that,” Reid said. “Some of it is just he wants to go attack, which is a good thing — you’d rather have it that way than the other way — he wants to go attack and he’ll over settle, but he’ll learn just to kind of calm himself down a little bit.”

Guard Geoff Schwartz also noted that Fisher has been targeted because of his draft status and the presence of established veteran Branden Albert on the opposite side.

“You’ve got to think, the Eagles and any other team, really, they’re gonna come after that guy,” said Schwartz, a six-year veteran. “Are they gonna come after B.A., or are they come after Fish? They’re gonna come after the young cat. So, that’s the way it is. He knows that, we know that.”

Fisher still managed to make a few impressive plays Thursday. He had a textbook reach block that sprung running back Jamaal Charles for a 3-yard score in the second half, and also drove a linebacker 12 yards downfield on another second-half run.

“There’s definitely different things you see in there that give you hope,” Schwartz said. “Really, some of his issues have been pass blocking and that just comes with time, knowing space, knowing angles, stuff like that. There’s no worry … we’re 3-0.”

Second-year tackle Donald Stephenson hopes the Chiefs’ overall record helps Fisher shrug off his individual defeats, which he found to be the key for surviving as a rookie.

“Because you know it’s going to happen,” said Stephenson, who played in 16 games and started seven last season. “The first thing the vets told me was it’s not college — you’re going to get your butt whupped, sometimes. It’s how you handle it and how you respond. That’s what I tried to do, I just kept my head up and brought it the next game, next play.”

Stephenson and Schwartz said that’s exactly what Fisher has done, as well.

“Everybody struggles that rookie year, and he’s handling it pretty good,” Stephenson said. “He’s always in here working on days off, watching extra film … he’s already acting like a vet. That’s going to pay off for him. The effort is there.”

Fisher seems to understand that for most, the journey toward becoming a good NFL player is not an easy process.

“Everyone makes mistakes in this game,” Fisher said. “I look at the film, I look at my assignments and I learn from those mistakes and do my best to not make them again.

“Everyday, I’m going to be a stronger player.”
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:15 PM   #151
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Right... all I am saying is, why write him off or hold him to a different standard because he hasn't been effective immediately? He made the biggest jump in the level of competition he's facing of anybody we've added in the draft in recent years.

He developed pretty steadily at the collegiate level but this is a whole different ballgame. It was always going to take time.
That's the breaks. It's not necessarily his fault, but he was the first pick if the draft, that's what happens.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:15 PM   #152
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Right... all I am saying is, why write him off or hold him to a different standard because he hasn't been effective immediately? He made the biggest jump in the level of competition he's facing of anybody we've added in the draft in recent years.

He developed pretty steadily at the collegiate level but this is a whole different ballgame. It was always going to take time.
Well, there's that whole pesky 1.1 thing.

Where our GM and HC prattled on and on about getting the right guy at that pick. We can act like the fact that he was the 1.1 pick isn't a big deal; and he's just another highly drafted guy. But it isn't true. It never will be.

It's not really fair to him. He didn't decide to be drafted at 1.1 anymore than Tyson Jackson decided to be drafted at 1.3. But those guys are going to be forever tied to their draft spots, and the fact that they were the first picks for their respective regimes.

We all trusted our new GM and this regime to be better at drafting than the old one. Even more so when they go the "safe" route and take a RT at that pick. Which means most of us would like to see their first draft effort look like an NFL player. He hasn't yet. That's concerning.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:18 PM   #153
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Way too early to write Fisher off.

Hell, the entire line, especially the interior, has been shit this year.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:18 PM   #154
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The Chiefs could have had ANY draft eligible player in the entire world. They took Eric Fisher. He looks like a slapdick through three games. This is CP; where we melt down and over-react.

Are some of you really that surprised at the backlash this guy is getting?
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:19 PM   #155
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Way too early to write Fisher off.

Hell, the entire line, especially the interior, has been shit this year.
I don't think anybody is honestly writing the guy off yet. He still has plenty of time to find his game; I think most of us just expected quite a bit more out of the guy at this point.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:24 PM   #156
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I don't think anybody is honestly writing the guy off yet. He still has plenty of time to find his game; I think most of us just expected quite a bit more out of the guy at this point.
I'm a bit dissatisfied that he hasn't been better, but not terribly worried about it yet. I'm hoping the entire line will gel and hit their stride soon. We need better holes for Charles in the running game. The run blocking almost seems worse than the pass blocking so far.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:34 PM   #157
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Would we be singing this song if it'd been a QB at 1.1?

No... we'd be saying he needs a year or two before we even know what we have.
How hard is this for you to understand? Seriously.

QBs are different than RTs. They're worth infinitely more.

When you're drafting at 1.1, if you can get an eventual stellar QB who requires 1-2 years of patience and on-field growth, you take that. Because it's a ****ing QB.

When you're drafting at 1.1 and you're faced with the option of drafting a RT who requires the same amount of patience and rookie frustration in order to become just as good at his position, you're much better off looking for a different player at a different position.

Please tell me what you don't understand. It's very important that you get this.
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what has happened to you. Here's the play -- Fisher seals off the edge blocking two defenders. Mayock comments on Fisher's block. what the **** has happened to you.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...yard-touchdown
I... don't know what the hell you're talking about. What the **** has happened to you?
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Well then I think we're in luck, because Fisher will be playing LT next year.
Yeah, lucky us
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The Chiefs could have had ANY draft eligible player in the entire world. They took Eric Fisher. He looks like a slapdick through three games. This is CP; where we melt down and over-react.

Are some of you really that surprised at the backlash this guy is getting?
i am surprised. He's a freaking rookie tackle. He is going to get better every single game. Along the way, he's going to make mistakes. There's little question that he has the requisite physical and mental traits and drive to improve.
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i am surprised. He's a freaking rookie tackle. He is going to get better every single game. Along the way, he's going to make mistakes. There's little question that he has the requisite physical and mental traits and drive to improve.
Yeah, that's what he's been doing.

Getting better every game.

Don't bother reading the article or anything.
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Thing is, Fisher is getting worse the more he plays.

His worst game was Philly.
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If he doesn't get his shit together soon, I'd put Stephenson at rt
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If he doesn't get his shit together soon, I'd put Stephenson at rt
He'll get plenty of time. This won't happen.

Hopefully it doesn't end up getting Alex hurt.
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Thing is, Fisher is getting worse the more he plays.

His worst game was Philly.
I'd prefer to overpay Albert than have Fish start at LT next year and suck out loud...
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