Peyton sour grapes

[KC-TBB]

I don't want to just come off sounding like I can't stand to see Peyton with his 12" forehead sitting on the sidelines grinning (although I can't) and it's not because when you watch NFL network or ESPN all they talk about is Broncos...but sometimes I just cant help thinking Bowlen and Elway have naked pictures of NFL officials wives or something.
Is it me or do the donks get 90% of the calls going their way? One play in particular; they horsecollar Romo for a sack...no call...GUARANTEED if that had been Manning, pink flags would have flown. Holding on running plays easily picked up by replay...not called.
I'm not saying they arent a good team, just frustrating we are having the best start in a decade and so are the freaking donks, just don't think they need the 13-14th man on the field helping them. OK so maybe it's just sour grapes after all?

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I'd be shocked if you didn't allow Smith to pass for 300+...

I don't think Smith passed for 300+ against the jags...

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

lol, like I said, we shall see soon enough which team is better...

Now you are back tracking here, your comment was the secondary. Now it's team ?

I think you will find here that everybody here agrees that we are not in Denver's league offensively. You on the other end is chirping about your defense is so good, no ?

I expect we will split with you. Nobody hear expected us to be at Denver's level this year,not even now.

But as others have said here already, Denver's offense is your team, it can be slowed down now and definitely stopped in the playoffs ( winter ).

I'm going to ask you now why I have the chance, will Denver win at Indy ? Luck can pass the ball too and Indy has a better D than Dallas does !

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I don't think Smith passed for 300+ against the jags...

Didn't have too, our game plan didn't call for it when we were up and getting points in other ways.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Now you are back tracking here, your comment was the secondary. Now it's team ?

I think you will find here that everybody here agrees that we are not in Denver's league offensively. You on the other end is chirping about your defense is so good, no ?

I expect we will split with you. Nobody hear expected us to be at Denver's level this year,not even now.

But as others have said here already, Denver's offense is your team, it can be slowed down now and definitely stopped in the playoffs ( winter ).

I'm going to ask you now why I have the chance, will Denver win at Indy ? Luck can pass the ball too and Indy has a better D than Dallas does !

No. I never once said that. Go back and read what I said. I do think the Broncos secondary, man-for-man and especially at the CB position is every bit as good if not better than kc's secondary. However, I do think kc's defense as a whole is better than the Broncos defense as a whole.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Didn't have too, our game plan didn't call for it when we were up and getting points in other ways.

Smith has yet to pass for 300 yards and at some point and time in this season, maybe even against the faiders, he just might have to.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

No. I never once said that. Go back and read what I said. I do think the Broncos secondary, man-for-man and especially at the CB position is every bit as good if not better than kc's secondary. However, I do think kc's defense as a whole is better than the Broncos defense as a whole.

Now it is , as good as KC's ?

Come on, you are flopping around like a fish out of water !

How about the question I asked, does Denver and Peyton go to Indy and win ?

[Randallflagg]

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

While on the subject of good calls vs. no calls... Can one of you explain to this undereducated idiot exactly WHAT is a false start? When Peyton goes under center, then stands up and taps his linemen on the back and pointing out who the blitzers are, is THAT not a false start? If not that, then is it not a false start for his linemen to stand up from a three point stance and point at the guy who they feel is going to blitz? For the life of me, this crap pisses me off every time I've watched Manning play. I watch out guys get flagged for nothing more than a head bob, then watch these idiots damn near do jumping jacks with all the arm movement and it's never called. I don't claim to be an expert on the rules, so an explanation would be appreciated.

And I understand the NFL is a business and TV ratings are what determines how large their next contract is. Franchise QB's increase ratings, and casual / bandwagon fans aren't going to watch a game when their favorite player (not team) gets hurt. However, if the refs are going to call it one way, the same call should apply to every single team in the NFL.

Funny, but I have been wondering the same thing....I realize that I played College ball in the early 70s..but once in your three or four point stance you could not move.

Just wondering if there was a rule change that I missed?

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Now it is , as good as KC's ?

Come on, you are flopping around like a fish out of water !

How about the question I asked, does Denver and Peyton go to Indy and win ?

no, I'm remarkably consistent in what I'm saying, you just can't read. As for the Broncos winning at Indy sure, I think the Broncos can win every game. Now, will the Broncos win every game... I dunno about that. But I do know that kc will go undefeated so why even worry about the Broncos amirite?

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Smith has yet to pass for 300 yards and at some point and time in this season, maybe even against the faiders, he just might have to.

Might have to ? I would say the 1st time we get way behind and have to revert to passing more in attempt to catch up.

As long as we can dictate the pace of the game, we don't have to have him attempt it.

Just because you can pass for many a yards is not always a winning formula.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

no, I'm remarkably consistent in what I'm saying, you just can't read. As for the Broncos winning at Indy sure, I think the Broncos can win every game. Now, will the Broncos win every game... I dunno about that. But I do know that kc will go undefeated so why even worry about the Broncos amirite?

If you think this place is full of homers with rosy views of the Chiefs you either can't read or you're a total moron...

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by scott free

Anyone else wanna smack tombstone around, or has pretty much everyone already had their turn?

no fun........he is too easy a target. I just stand by and watch you guys

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Von is the only donco defender that would start for KC...Chump can't even get on the field and the rest got lit up like a Christmas tree.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

no, I'm remarkably consistent in what I'm saying, you just can't read. As for the Broncos winning at Indy sure, I think the Broncos can win every game. Now, will the Broncos win every game... I dunno about that. But I do know that kc will go undefeated so why even worry about the Broncos amirite?

Really, what am I miss reading here ?

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

look who's talking lol! I said one thing, that the Broncos secondary is better than kc's, especially at the CB position and everyone hear is saying that I'm claiming the Broncos defense is better than kc's and I never said that at all! I've also pointed out that when other teams pass and pass and pass the ball it's going to skew the numbers.

Please explain!

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

No. I never once said that. Go back and read what I said. I do think the Broncos secondary, man-for-man and especially at the CB position is every bit as good if not better than kc's secondary. However, I do think kc's defense as a whole is better than the Broncos defense as a whole.

No matter how many times you say this it isn't true. And you keep saying the opponents pass so much more against Denver. Teams have thrown 191 times against KC and 209 against Denver. That's a whole four extra pass attempts per game!

26% of the completions (15% of attempts) against Denver go for 20+ yards. But they are better in the secondary! LOL

[ROYC75]

Yo Tombstone .......no answer ?