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View Poll Results: Most deserving - Pick up to 5 modern candidates, and up to two senior candidates.
George Young 2 2.33%
Steve Wisniewski 4 4.65%
Aeneas Williams 8 9.30%
Paul Tagliabue 16 18.60%
Michael Strahan 37 43.02%
Will Shields 73 84.88%
Andre Reed 15 17.44%
Kark Mecklenburg 6 6.98%
John Lynch 6 6.98%
Walter Jones 5 5.81%
Jimmy Johnson 9 10.47%
Joe Jacoby 6 6.98%
Marvin Harrison 31 36.05%
Charles Haley 13 15.12%
Kevin Greene 18 20.93%
Tony Dungy 5 5.81%
Edward Debartolo, Jr. 3 3.49%
Terrell Davis 7 8.14%
Roger Craig 11 12.79%
Don Coryell 20 23.26%
Tim Brown 23 26.74%
Derrick Brooks 22 25.58%
Jerome Bettis 14 16.28%
Steve Atwater 9 10.47%
Morten Andersen 17 19.77%
None of the modern-era people deserve to go in. 0 0%
Senior Candidate - Claude Humphrey 6 6.98%
Senior Candidate - Ray Guy 47 54.65%
None of the senior-era people deserve to go in. 5 5.81%
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:18 PM   #1
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:38 PM   #2
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Ah, the ol' "You're not old enough to remember X" card.

Love that.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:40 PM   #3
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Ah, the ol' "You're not old enough to remember X" card.

Love that.
You've admitted that you are 24 years old. You were born roughly around 1988 or 1989.

Would you care to explain the NFL game of the 70's and 80's? Hell, even the 90's?

How has it changed?
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:47 PM   #4
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You've admitted that you are 24 years old. You were born roughly around 1988 or 1989.

Would you care to explain the NFL game of the 70's and 80's? Hell, even the 90's?

How has it changed?
I'd love to see the league average for YPC over the years and whether or not the passing rules have had any impact. I have no idea where to find it though.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:53 PM   #5
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I'd love to see the league average for YPC over the years and whether or not the passing rules have had any impact. I have no idea where to find it though.
Defenses are geared to stop the passing game. The rules regarding CB's and pass rushers didn't exist in the 70's, 80's and 90's. Guys can barely touch QB's these days, let alone WR's, yet back in the day, they could destroy QB's and mug receivers.

It was totally different game, which is why if you didn't have an amazing running back (if not a Hall of Famer), you likely weren't going to the Super Bowl, let alone, win it.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:53 PM   #6
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I'd love to see the league average for YPC over the years and whether or not the passing rules have had any impact. I have no idea where to find it though.
It has, but not to the degree Dane is contending.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...FL/rushing.htm

In the 70s you could expect YPC to be around 4.0 YPC. 80s - largely the same story.

The 90's looked to vacillate a little more, but YPC do have a downward trend; 3.9 seems pretty fair and by Tomlinson's 'peak' years it had come up to about 4.1 YPC.

We're talking percentage points here and there; in any given 'era' you're looking about a variation of about 2-4%.

He's right that it's gotten a little easier, but not by that much and certainly not when you compare it to the guys in the 70s and 80s.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:55 PM   #7
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It has, but not to the degree Dane is contending.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...FL/rushing.htm

In the 70s you could expect YPC to be around 4.0 YPC. 80s - largely the same story.

The 90's looked to vacillate a little more, but YPC do have a downward trend; 3.9 seems pretty fair and by Tomlinson's 'peak' years it had come up to about 4.1 YPC.

We're talking percentage points here and there; in any given 'era' you're looking about a variation of about 2-4%.

He's right that it's gotten a little easier, but not by that much and certainly not when you compare it to the guys in the 70s and 80s.
But there weren't guys running sub-4.5 40's across the board, either.

The game has changed dramatically.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:40 PM   #8
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Kevin Greene has more sacks than Andre Tippet, Chris Doleman and Howie Long and they are all in the Hall of Fame but he isn't

makes sense.
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Kevin Greene has more sacks than Andre Tippet, Chris Doleman and Howie Long and they are all in the Hall of Fame but he isn't

makes sense.
The knock on Kevin Greene has always been that he was a poor all-around linebacker.

As a pass rushing specialist, he was valuable. Against the run?

Not so much.
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The 5 guys with the highest Pro Football Reference Weighted Career AVs (fwiw) are:

1. Derrick Brooks 140
2. Marvin Harrison 124
3. Michael Strahan 121
4. Will Shields 113
5. Aeneas Williams 106

Just missing the cut were a couple of Raiders, Tim Brown and Steve Wisniewski at 104.
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We've been doing that, Dane..
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If Coryell doesn't get into the HOF, it's a travesty. None of the offenses putting up video game numbers today that Goodell and the owners love so much would have been possible without him.

But he only won 3 playoff games, so I guess he's not "transcendent" enough for the Hall.
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Put David Tyree in the Hall of Fame! He has a ring and had that amazing helmet catch, that means he's "transcendent!" /Dane
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Put David Tyree in the Hall of Fame! He has a ring and had that amazing helmet catch, that means he's "transcendent!" /Dane
**** off, Dummy.

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