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Old 12-09-2013, 05:50 PM   #1
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Their very name and what happened. Patriot...Patriotic....Patriotism....You know those things that this country was built on.
The 9/11-Patriots thing is sadly ridiculous. Exactly why does the team name matter? This whole conspiracy revolves around the TEAM NAME.

Did people really tune in because the PATRIOTS were playing? Did people really rally around the PATRIOTS just because of the team name and 9/11?

It's childish nonsense.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:17 PM   #2
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The 9/11-Patriots thing is sadly ridiculous. Exactly why does the team name matter? This whole conspiracy revolves around the TEAM NAME.

Did people really tune in because the PATRIOTS were playing? Did people really rally around the PATRIOTS just because of the team name and 9/11?

It's childish nonsense.
Wow really dude. Did you not see and hear the gushing about how poetic it was that the "Patriots" were in the SB after 9/11 happened to our country? All of the stories that tied the SB as Patriotic to this nation. Have you not noticed the influx of people that that brought into football as fans? The average increase of NFL fans spiked post 9/11. In talking to a lot of people, that are not from nor have ever been in the northeast, that are fans of the Patriots and asking them when they became fans of the Patriots they ALL have said after 9/11 when they won the SB and how justifying it felt for the Patriots to win after what our nation had just been through.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:13 PM   #3
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Tuck Rule was as blatant as it gets.
They properly applied the tuck rule, so I'm not sure what you think was blatant, other than the officials blatantly making the proper call. That same rule, properly applied, had cost the Patriots a game against the Jets earlier in the season.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:27 PM   #4
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They properly applied the tuck rule, so I'm not sure what you think was blatant, other than the officials blatantly making the proper call. That same rule, properly applied, had cost the Patriots a game against the Jets earlier in the season.
Don't let facts get in the way of the conspiracy theorists in this thread.

The league is biased towards Peyton Manning/Brady, but Manning has won one Super Bowl and had a plethora of one and dones in the playoffs and Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl in 8 years.

Green Bay, the smallest market in the NFL, has recently won a Super Bowl. Rainman, you wrote a great essay and it sucks that the contest was looking for something more marketable, but stop being an idiot about the rest of the game.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:52 PM   #5
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Green Bay, the smallest market in the NFL, has recently won a Super Bowl. Rainman, you wrote a great essay and it sucks that the contest was looking for something more marketable, but stop being an idiot about the rest of the game.
I'll try, but it's hard to stop being an idiot at my age. I've been doing it for far too long.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:58 PM   #6
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I'll try, but it's hard to stop being an idiot at my age. I've been doing it for far too long.
Sorry about the name calling. I've just read several posts over the past couple of days talking about NFL conspiracies and they make this fanbase sound like a bunch of whiners.

There isn't enough reward to warrant the risk of purposely influencing games through league mandates.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:05 PM   #7
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Don't let facts get in the way of the conspiracy theorists in this thread.

The league is biased towards Peyton Manning/Brady, but Manning has won one Super Bowl and had a plethora of one and dones in the playoffs and Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl in 8 years.
This alone should shut down the conspiracy
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:19 AM   #8
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I am not making a statement about any agenda, I just can not look at that play and see anything that resembles an incomplete pass.

It was against the Raiders, too.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:23 AM   #9
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Of course the NFL is a business ran by business people. If anything the NFL seems like the league least concerned with market size.

The only NFL game of import that looked possibly crooked to me was the Seahawks vs Steelers super bowl game. I can't really remember the specifics but I just remember the feeling that it seemed tainted to a guy who had no rooting interest either way.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:26 AM   #10
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Ya the game is rigged, the main reason I started working Sundays. I will never get that pissed off about a BS loss again.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:28 AM   #11
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*I am disgusted with all the ref face time & reviews

*no more contact, this game looks more like basketball & soccer

*Jamaal looks like a nostalgia clip inserted into today's game


I don't watch as much football these days. I travel for my work, often making travel schedules match games I wanted to attend. I used to attend 12 or more games per season and the past couple years that number has dwindled -- this season I have attended four games.

I don't make SB plans anymore. I didn't even watch SB45 two years ago, decided to work a project instead.

I like football because it is a high contact game mixed with strategy similar to chess & checkers. but now that contact is illegal, I have lost interest.

almost time to let go. I'll probably stop following after Jamaal retires.
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What if we just enslave the gladiators and have them play each Sunday for their lives?
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Bring them in for a look?
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:04 AM   #14
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Which team do you guys think should have won in 2009 that had their Super Bowl stolen from them? I recall the Saints being pretty good that year.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:11 AM   #15
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Honestly, my enjoyment of the game changed dramatically this past offseason while I contemplated everything that had happened and whether or not I still wanted to be a fan of the Chiefs.

I had to get the "it's all about the Super Bowl" idea out of my head. Primarily because I came to the realization that the Chiefs will likely never win one. The cards are stacked heavily against them.
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