Game manager. What is that exactly?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Matt Ryan lost the elite talent he had at the skill positions and still had his second best statistical year of his career.

With Julio Jones and Roddy White at WR:

4700 yards 32tds 68%comp

Without Julio Jones, and a banged up Roddy White (they also lost Sam Baker to ir and Tyson Clabo to FA)

4500yars 26tds 67%comp

No way is he a game manager. The difference in the win loss column can be directly attributed to his defense being a steaming bag of crap because they let some important pieces walk (John Abraham and Brent Grimes) while losing a bunch of other guys to injury like Sean Wetherspoon

Watch him play. He's a game manager. He does not elevate his play or the play of those around him when the game is on the line.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Watch him play. He's a game manager. He does not elevate his play or the play of those around him when the game is on the line.

If you are basing that strictly on 2013, sure you might have a partially valid point. If you are basing that on his whole body of work, I completely disagree.

Ryan has 25 game winning drives. That's the most of any quarterback in the NFL since 2008. I'd say he ABSOLUTELY raises the level of play of those around him when the game is on the line.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If you are basing that strictly on 2013, sure you might have a partially valid point. If you are basing that on his whole body of work, I completely disagree.

Ryan has 25 game winning drives. That's the most of any quarterback in the NFL since 2008. I'd say he ABSOLUTELY raises the level of play of those around him when the game is on the line.

The year he didn't have his stable of talent around him, he looked worse. I'd say thats game manager.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

The year he didn't have his stable of talent around him, he looked worse. I'd say thats game manager.

The only way he looked worse was in the win column.

Game managers don't throw for 4500 yards and 26tds when they have replacement level guys at the skill positions.

Harry Douglas was his best receiver and he threw for over 4500 yards. If that's a game manager, sign me up.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If you are basing that strictly on 2013, sure you might have a partially valid point. If you are basing that on his whole body of work, I completely disagree.

Ryan has 25 game winning drives. That's the most of any quarterback in the NFL since 2008. I'd say he ABSOLUTELY raises the level of play of those around him when the game is on the line.

I'm basing it on his entire body of work.

He's a high-end game manager. You'll never change my mind.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Watch him play. He's a game manager. He does not elevate his play or the play of those around him when the game is on the line.

Great game managers may not make their receivers shine, but they elevate the play of their running backs and defense.