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ShowtimeSBMVP · 11:13 AM

Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal

By Ian Rapoport NFL.com
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Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes | 2 Comments
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Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations."

Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process.

While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off.

"This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped."

Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations.

The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients.

Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred.

While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions.

"When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper."

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Denver is giving former Steelers WR Emmanuel Sanders a 3-year, $15M contract. Team announced agreement.

vailpass · 03-16-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PA Chiefs

But if is understood that an agreement is in place integrity is vital in all business. It is what it is some teams do this one way others another. Business of any sort shouldn't be cut throat but it is and being the bigger scumbag shouldn't make you the better businessman but it does this day in age. Its sad really not just talkin football but in everything.

And if the agent assured Elway no formal agreement was in place? It's not up to Elway to vet that, the agent is responsible for factual representation.

Messier · 03-16-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Why should they?

There's no NFL rule being broken here.

Is it shady ethically? Of course.

But ultimately, pen had not yet been put to paper, and Denver offered him more money and a better opportunity.

Meanwhile, this fanbase is so ****ed in the head from 20 years of frustration that they are whining about losing out on a WR2 with feet held together with screws. We didn't lose out on Jerry Rice in his prime, folks.

Did they? I don't know what either team offered.

**LoneWolf** · 03-16-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Why?

What does it benefit Elway to do that?

It isn't his concern that the Chiefs were getting played by Sanders agent.

Being ethical in your business practices is just smart business. If other teams perceive that Denver is acting in a shady way, they may be hesitant to do business with Elway and Co. With such a limited amount of potential business partners in the NFL, it is always wise to keep good business relations with the other franchises.

FloridaMan88 · 03-16-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Do you admire the agent?

His agent did it with Sanders blessing and the got the best deal for his client… he did his job.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-16-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Reading is fundamental ****bag.

BREAKING: Emmanuel Sanders also agreed to terms with the Wizards, Padres and Blackhawks last night.
— Rich Eisen (@richeisen) March 16, 2014

TEX · 03-16-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Are you attempting to teach a business ethics course here?

That is bullshit.

It is win at all costs in the NFL and the Chiefs as usual, get bent over like a bitch in this cut-throat game.

Pretty much...

chiefzilla1501 · 03-16-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Are you attempting to teach a business ethics course here?

That is bullshit.

It is win at all costs in the NFL and the Chiefs as usual, get bent over like a bitch in this cut-throat game.

The only thing cut-throat about this situation is that the agent who decided to play by his own rules will be lucky to find work next year. The Chiefs didn't get bent over like a bitch. They got hustled by an agent who will no longer be working in the NFL.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-16-2014, 10:26 AM

The Chiefs didn't do anything wrong in this instance. Stop trying to skew the facts to fit a broader narrative. Yes, the Chiefs are a terrible, terrible franchise, one of the worst in sports, but they weren't incompetent in this instance.

However, I will say this: if this was going to happen to a sports franchise, the Chiefs are one of about five you'd expect. They are completely hapless.

PRIEST · 03-16-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Why should they?

There's no NFL rule being broken here.

Is it shady ethically? Of course.

But ultimately, pen had not yet been put to paper, and Denver offered him more money and a better opportunity.

Meanwhile, this fanbase is so ****ed in the head from 20 years of frustration that they are whining about losing out on a WR2 with feet held together with screws. We didn't lose out on Jerry Rice in his prime, folks. We're so thin at WR that people are losing their ****ing minds.

**Bowser** · 03-16-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

What does bigger guy have to do with business? If Denver broke a rule they should be punished accordingly.
I'm trying to determine if a rule was broken.

I don't know. I'm no NFL rules expert. I'd say an unwritten rule was broken by the agent, and I will stand firm in saying that Elway knew all about it since he basically agreed to a contract with Sanders over the phone without having him in. Is that illegal by letter of the law? Doubt it, but I'm not sure. Now, if Elway really DIDN'T know about the contract with the Chiefs, he should null his contract and file a grievance with the NFLPA.

All this being said - You're laughing your ass off as you type this stuff, aren't you?

Messier · 03-16-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

His agent did it with Sanders blessing and the got the best deal for his client… he did his job.

So, yes?

FloridaMan88 · 03-16-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Being ethical in your business practices is just smart business. If other teams perceive that Denver is acting in a shady way, they may be hesitant to do business with Elway and Co. With such a limited amount of potential business partners in the NFL, it is always wise to keep good business relations with the other franchises.

Total bullshit.

Patriots have done things in a shady manner for years, highlighted by Spygate and they still find trading partners every year to stockpile draft picks.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-16-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Did they? I don't know what either team offered.

Who gives a shit if they offered him $1 to play next year?

He took it, and actually SIGNED the contract.

He's gone, and it's really not that big a loss, IMO.

FloridaMan88 · 03-16-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

So, yes?

Yes.

Messier · 03-16-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

His agent did it with Sanders blessing and the got the best deal for his client… he did his job.

What were the Chiefs numbers?

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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1246009	WR Emmanuel Sanders signs with Denver - Executives cry foul Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal By Ian Rapoport NFL.com NFL Media Insider Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes \| 2 Comments Email Print Read Discuss Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations." Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process. While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off. "This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped." Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations. The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients. Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred. While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions. "When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper." Adam Schefter ✔ @AdamSchefter Follow Denver is giving former Steelers WR Emmanuel Sanders a 3-year, $15M contract. Team announced agreement. Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 03-16-2014 at 11:13 AM..
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