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Manziel 24 23.08%
Bortles 20 19.23%
Carr 16 15.38%
Bridgewater 27 25.96%
Garrapolo 4 3.85%
Someone else 13 12.50%
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:24 AM  
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:45 PM   #31
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McCarron would be a good fit for any team that has a good running game. not the strongest arm in the world, but very smart. I could see him with the Vikings.
I remember watching the Senior Bowl game with Carr throwing a deep bomb to Norwood. It looked like Norwood did not expect the ball to fly as far as he did because he stopped his route and looked like he was waiting on it to fall only to have the ball land where he would have been about 10 yards further up the field if he had just kept running. I guess that's what happens when you play your entire college career with a noodle arm like McCarron, lol.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:51 PM   #32
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Yeah, that Joe Nammath guy sure did suck.

Yeah, and if Namath pulled that shit today he'd be suspended in an instant ( drug testing) especially with the growth of social media and NFL PR concerns. He wouldn't be available to lend his talents.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:52 PM   #33
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:57 PM   #34
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:17 PM   #35
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:29 PM   #36
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I like Garoppolo or Murray, because I think they'll fall far enough that a good team with a good coach will get their hands on them and actually teach them how to play.

Manziel is kind of set up for failure.
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:30 PM   #37
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:54 PM   #38
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I don't think the Vikings are gonna settle. McCarron is too much like Ponder...
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I guess i haven't seen enough of Ponder to really compare.
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Old 05-08-2014, 02:05 PM   #40
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Manziel is kind of set up for failure.

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Yeah, I think Johnny is giant ****ing douchebag and I've said as much.

But when I look at what he brings to the table and put it into the context of what Andy Reid does, I see a lot of wins there...
Andy Reid had Michael Vick, who was 20-20 as a starter there. All of Vick's physical tools were superior. Of course, that isn't to say anything about what's going on upstairs, which was Vick's problem - his QBIQ just isn't that high. But Manziel has a lot working against him... size, arm, pro-style of play, etc. Some guys make it missing an elite arm of course, but not with so many things leaning against them.

I'm not sure what you can say in the way of, "But he's going to be different than scrambling QBs of the past. He'll develop into a good NFL QB because...".

That's a hard question to answer in his favor, isn't it? Unless you just like the guy and believe he's going to do what dozens or hundreds of others haven't.
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I guess i haven't seen enough of Ponder to really compare.
I'd see Minnesota picking Bortles more, personally, but he probably won't make it down to them.
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Andy Reid had Michael Vick, who was 20-20 as a starter there. All of Vick's physical tools were superior. Of course, that isn't to say anything about what's going on upstairs, which was Vick's problem - his QBIQ just isn't that high. But Manziel has a lot working against him... size, arm, pro-style of play, etc. Some guys make it missing an elite arm of course, but not with so many things leaning against them.

I'm not sure what you can say in the way of, "But he's going to be different than scrambling QBs of the past. He'll develop into a good NFL QB because...".

That's a hard question to answer in his favor, isn't it? Unless you just like the guy and believe he's going to do what dozens or hundreds of others haven't.
Not all of Vick's physical tools were superior. Outside of pure arm strength, Manziel is a better passer.

And you can't just throw out the mental makeup as if it's insignificant. What is between his ears is easily what separates Manziel from all of the other QBs in this draft, both good and bad.

Finally, he's not just a scrambling QB.

I find it very funny that so many here spend so much energy propping up Alex Smith while simultaneously tearing down Manziel. Tells me they didn't know much about Smith before he came to KC, didn't watch Manziel much in college, or a combination of both.
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