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Old 06-11-2014, 03:21 PM  
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Dee Ford compared to Von Miller, Derrick Thomas
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General manager John Dorsey recently explained that Dee Ford was selected at No. 23 overall because the Auburn star was the best player left on the Kansas City Chiefs' board and the second-best pass rusher in the draft.

Coach Andy Reid has praised Ford's quickness and athletic ability while rating the outside linebacker's intangibles as "off the charts."

On a more impressive note, Ford's explosive first step has already drawn comparisons to Chiefs Hall of Fame linebacker Derrick Thomas and Broncos All-Pro Von Miller.

"If anybody reminds you of Derrick Thomas, that kid should pretty much remind you of Derrick Thomas with his first step," Pro Bowl linebacker Tamba Hali said last week, per The Huntsville Times. "He gets off the ball so fast it's scary. I just kept rewinding (the video) yesterday just looking at his first step. I don't know if he times it, but his first step is incredible."

New teammate Joe Mays, who played with Miller in Denver, sees similar traits in Ford.

"That guys is explosive. He's quick off the ball," Mays said Tuesday, per the Chiefs' official website. "He kind of reminds me of Von Miller with the way that he gets off the ball and gets around the offensive linemen. He's a freak. He knows how to work angles and uses his hands real well. He can bend and do all types of stuff you don't see in the everyday pass rushers. Definitely 'as-advertised'."

The quotes coming out of Kansas City suggest Ford should have been a top-10 draft pick last month.

As much talent as Ford boasts, it's going to be tough for him to challenge for the Defensive Rookie of the Year award while fighting for snaps behind Hali and Justin Houston.

With Hali carrying a prohibitive $12 million salary cap figure in 2015, though, Ford should be a prime "Making the Leap" candidate at this point next offseason.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:50 PM   #16
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Khalil Mack has 33 1/4" arms btw
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:51 PM   #17
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Sorry man but a little over half an inch is not going to make or break a player in ANY circumstance.
Old School might be placing more emphasis on arm length than neededn but there is a reason it's measured.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:51 PM   #18
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Look around the league. The best edge rushers almost all have arms that are 34" long.

The only good player that I can even think of with arms that are less than 33" long is Trent Cole at 32 7/8".
Look up Jared Allen and Elvis Dumervil. I believe they are only 32.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:52 PM   #19
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Old School might be placing more emphasis on arm length than neededn but there is a reason it's measured.
No I agree 100%, but that's taking it a little too far.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:58 PM   #20
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Stupid comparison. Dee Ford is a weaker Vernon Gholston.
You're a weaker version of Stephen Hawking.
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:10 PM   #21
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fluff piece is fluffy.
Comparing rookie in camp to DT...
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:13 PM   #22
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Dee Ford is Derrick Thomas just like Glen Dorsey was Warren Sapp.
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Comparing rookie in camp to DT...
Yeahhhhhhh, Im sure Dee Ford is like thanks a lot dick.

I wouldn't want that comparison honestly.
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:14 PM   #24
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It's amazing that people miss the point. It's not about him being the next DT or Miller it's about having that unique first step that they both possessed when looking at his potential.
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It's amazing that people miss the point. It's not about him being the next DT or Miller it's about having that unique first step that they both possessed when looking at his potential.
Im not missing the point at all. I got that. but, fans are irrational. They don't think like that.
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Some short armed (under 33) pass rushers:

James Harrison
Jared Allen
Terrell Suggs
Cameron Wake
Joey Porter
Trent Cole
Elvis Dumervil
Clay Matthews

There were reports that Tamba Hali's arms were only 30 3/8

So yeah, I'd say the idea that Pass rushers who don't have 33 inch arms are somehow hamstrung is probably not really true.

That's not to say it doesn't help, but proper technique is always going to matter more.
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Im not missing the point at all. I got that. but, fans are irrational. They don't think like that.
Wasn't talking about you, but yea it's also bc they want to be negative about a pick they don't know much about.
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