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Old 06-13-2014, 01:01 PM  
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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.
He's a Charger now.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:57 AM   #556
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They won because of the scheme they played. They won all year with it. You could have a the best tacklers in the world but if you tried to play that Denver team with a cover 2 defense you're giving up 40 +
Holy shit, your dumbassery needs to end. If you truly believe that just because you're playing Cover 3 means that you're going to have success, you are a complete mongoloid.

In the Div round this year, the Broncos had 3rd and 17 with 3:07 left with the ball on their own 20. Peyton correctly worked away from the rotation and found Thomas for a 21 yard gain.



The defense the Chargers called?



Your beloved, all-powerful, unstoppable Cover 3.



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Old 06-15-2014, 01:05 AM   #557
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Seriously, this is Blackbob dumbassery.

"Just install the same defense as _______ and you'll perform just like them!"

There isn't even a reason to draft players or have coaches because by Odin, if we simply install C3 and run that and only that, we'll be the best defense eva! Who gives a flying **** about gap integrity, combo-coverages, and the players that determine whether or not a team's philosophy and scheme are successful?
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Old 06-15-2014, 02:29 AM   #558
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:31 AM   #559
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I had assumed they'd both be cut after the 2014 season, unless they agreed to stay on at a drastically lower pay grade.

I can't understand why they wouldn't hold on to Flowers for one more season. That would make way more sense, even needing to extend Houston and Smith.
I felt the same way.

My point about Hali is that he's older, has absolutely lost a step, is a one trick pony and was invisible after Week 7, with the exception of the Washington game.

But I guarantee if Hali was released today, some of the same folks praising Dorsey for dumping a big cap number would be pissy for doing the same with Tamba.
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:33 AM   #560
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Seriously, this is Blackbob dumbassery.

"Just install the same defense as _______ and you'll perform just like them!"

There isn't even a reason to draft players or have coaches because by Odin, if we simply install C3 and run that and only that, we'll be the best defense eva! Who gives a flying **** about gap integrity, combo-coverages, and the players that determine whether or not a team's philosophy and scheme are successful?
Hadn't noticed this dumbass until a couple of days ago, but.....


Holeeee Shit!

He's a god damn moron!
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:56 AM   #561
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But by all means, hang on to the 5'9" CB who runs a 4.55 with a 30" vertical when he clearly demonstrated last season that he would be nothing more than an ineffective player in this scheme. Hell, he couldn't even manage the slot at a high level.
If we were going to cut him why not do it earlier when we could have used some of that savings to improve the team?...
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If we were going to cut him why not do it earlier when we could have used some of that savings to improve the team?...
By waiting until June 1, they can spread the cap hit over two seasons instead of absorbing it all this season.
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I felt the same way.

My point about Hali is that he's older, has absolutely lost a step, is a one trick pony and was invisible after Week 7, with the exception of the Washington game.

But I guarantee if Hali was released today, some of the same folks praising Dorsey for dumping a big cap number would be pissy for doing the same with Tamba.
Hall contributed at least last year. We're talking about someone who had 10 sacks last year to someone who allowed 800 yards. Hali plays a more impactful position and plays it better. Simple as that.
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Hall contributed at least last year. We're talking about someone who had 10 sacks last year to someone who allowed 800 yards. Hali plays a more impactful position and plays it better. Simple as that.
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All of his sacks (but two) came in the first 7 games against mostly inferior talent.

When the games mattered most, he disappeared. I wouldn't call that impactful.
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Hall contributed at least last year. We're talking about someone who had 10 sacks last year to someone who allowed 800 yards. Hali plays a more impactful position and plays it better. Simple as that.
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More impactful position?

Not anymore.

Today's NFL requires CBs (and safeties) that can do their jobs, both before and after the pass.

If your corners can't make the tackles and minimize yac in the quick passing game, there is no pass rusher that will have any impact.
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All of his sacks (but two) came in the first 7 games against mostly inferior talent.

When the games mattered most, he disappeared. I wouldn't call that impactful.
Yeah. And Flowers was bad during that same 7 game stretch against the same inferior talent. So I'd still rather have Hali.
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Big surprise Hali ' s production dropped after being hurt.
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More impactful position?

Not anymore.

Today's NFL requires CBs (and safeties) that can do their jobs, both before and after the pass.

If your corners can't make the tackles and minimize yac in the quick passing game, there is no pass rusher that will have any impact.
I'd still rather have a decent pass rusher than a decent corner. If you're not getting pressure it really doesn't matter how great your corners are. And right now Flowers isn't close to great.
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Big surprise Hali ' s production dropped after being hurt.
I don't see anyone giving Flowers a pass for playing hurt most of the year.

Here come those double standards I was talking about earlier...
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good pass rush is useless with some of these QBs that have a quick releases against shitty pass coverage.

see: Colts-Chiefs playoff game RE: Andrew Luck scoring touchdowns in 30 second drives
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