Covitz:Alex Smith will play entire first half of Sunday’s preseason game

[Tribal Warfare]

Alex Smith will play entire first half of Sunday’s preseason game

Chiefs coach Andy Reid said starter Alex Smith would likely play the entire first half on Sunday night at Carolina, but the rest of the quarterback rotation has not been determined.

The starting offense struggled in the preseason opener against Cincinnati, going three-and-out, settling for a short field goal and Smith lost a fumble when sacked. Smith said he had a simple goal for Sunday night: Hold onto the football.

“That was the biggest play for me in my (time on the field),” Smith said. “You look at two third-and-shorts that we didn’t convert, one on the run play and the last on the pass play ... miscommunication there with the receivers. You just can’t have it.

“To me, two plays jumped out — one, the fumble, you just can’t have turnovers. The second one, that third-and-2 down there, in the red zone, if you convert, you have a good chance of walking away with a touchdown. Those are big downs, we know that. You have to execute those and it’s all kind of in the details.”

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by dls6501

I am trying to discuss football while you guys are making childish insults.

This is ChiefsPlanet, bro! We tried what you are supposedly trying, and quickly learned that childish insults are the way to go here. Get with the program!

[ViperVisor]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

This is all bullshit.

Jenkins and Avery are both open by NFL standards.

RABBBLE!!!

When did I say they weren't open? There was still coverage in the area. It wasn't the AJ Green runs by both guys like in the preseason game.

Smith was prepping to throw throw to Jenkins as that was his guess for who was gonna be the best option. An NFL nobody vs. a guy who is a run fast straight career WR who is gonna get the help coverage. See how he sets with his body looking that way. Griffin flashed in the area by Smith. He looks to Avery, clutches and then gets the pass to him.
Yes if he reacts with 0 delay the almost 50 yard pass can be a running catch for a TD. But the NFL is not a video game.
It takes practice and 100% speed in-game reps to get this stuff down. Even then these kind of play are rarely attempted and even more rarely completed.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

This is ChiefsPlanet, bro! We tried what you are supposedly trying, and quickly learned that childish insults are the way to go here. Get with the program!

It's a process.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by dls6501

I dont play Madden (or FF for that matter), so the Madden or fantasy football excuse doesnt fly with me like you and other Alex fans like to use as a crutch.

Yes, I am well aware that a QB has to go through progressions. I played football. I also find the whole "he goes through progressions and he may have moved on from the WR before he popped open" as an excuse as well. When you have WR's running longer routes, they are almost never the first read. More often than not, the progression goes middle route, long route, check down/short route (unless its a quick hitch or slant or something like that).

So for Alex to have "moved to another progression before the long route becomes open" is really nonsense. There are many examples every game where Alex is looking at an open receiver, and chooses the MORE open receiver for a minimal gain because it is a virtually risk free pass. My problem is, if Alex is as accurate as some claim, the pass attempt that he decided to pass up should NOT be deemed risky. Its not about "taking chances" as "Sandy Cheeks" says. Alex's overly cautious playing has trained you to think that.

I don't believe I said anything about Madden or Fantasy Football. Chicks dig the long ball, I get it. I just don't think any of us can know for certain if any given receiver was open at the point Smith got to him in his progression. It's been said many many times by multiple coaches in different organizations that Smith is the smartest QB you're going to find. You are free to bitch about the lack of risks he takes with the football if you want, but I'm in the crowd that trusts him to make the best decision for the football team. That's all. to each his own.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by dls6501

Wrong. I am not "closed off to anything regarding Smith." I simply choose not to acknowledge some of the excuses made for Alex as facts. You talk about going through progressions. There isnt a coach in the world, let alone offensive minded coaches like Harbaugh or Reid, that would make a longer, stretch play the first read of a progression. So to hang on the "Alex probably moved onto another progression before he broke open" excuse makes no sense. Zero.

I might be stating the obvious here... but if the long route is later in his progression, then isn't it possible that he is unloading to an open receiver before he gets to the longer route? West coast offense is built upon short, quick passing and moving the chains.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by dls6501

Wrong. I am not "closed off to anything regarding Smith." I simply choose not to acknowledge some of the excuses made for Alex as facts. You talk about going through progressions. There isnt a coach in the world, let alone offensive minded coaches like Harbaugh or Reid, that would make a longer, stretch play the first read of a progression. So to hang on the "Alex probably moved onto another progression before he broke open" excuse makes no sense. Zero.

Furthermore... I didn't play QB but I did play TE. Our QB's read progression was different for every play and didn't have much to do with short route to long. It had to do with that particular play and which receive they believed would break free based on what they believed the defense was going to be doing. That progression changed from game to game... sometimes it changed within the game. There isn't ONE way to set up a progression. You can guess from home based on what you see the QB's head doing, but often times the QB's head is facing one way, while his eyes are scanning somewhere else. You can't know for sure sitting on your couch.

[htismaqe]

Can we just rename this place Alexplanet and get it over with?

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by dls6501

I dont play Madden (or FF for that matter), so the Madden or fantasy football excuse doesnt fly with me like you and other Alex fans like to use as a crutch.

Yes, I am well aware that a QB has to go through progressions. I played football. I also find the whole "he goes through progressions and he may have moved on from the WR before he popped open" as an excuse as well. When you have WR's running longer routes, they are almost never the first read. More often than not, the progression goes middle route, long route, check down/short route (unless its a quick hitch or slant or something like that).

So for Alex to have "moved to another progression before the long route becomes open" is really nonsense. There are many examples every game where Alex is looking at an open receiver, and chooses the MORE open receiver for a minimal gain because it is a virtually risk free pass. My problem is, if Alex is as accurate as some claim, the pass attempt that he decided to pass up should NOT be deemed risky. Its not about "taking chances" as "Sandy Cheeks" says. Alex's overly cautious playing has trained you to think that.

Game situation, player being thrown too, etc. Are the chiefs winning? are they losing? what down is it? what quarter is it?
How good is the Oline holding up? Where are the mismatches? What was the game plan?
So take the top 5 to 10 teams.. is EVERY QB doing what you are stating every single play? Does every single ply with the same style? how successful have they been?

[temper11]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Can we just rename this place Alexplanet and get it over with?

Um... I guess.

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Can we just rename this place Alexplanet and get it over with?

You know what's funny? Over on my boards what was called the redzone was called "Alex Zone" in jest at one point.. this dude is one of the most controversial QB even though hes a stand up guy ha.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by RobBlake

You know what's funny? Over on my boards what was called the redzone was called "Alex Zone" in jest at one point.. this dude is one of the most controversial QB even though hes a stand up guy ha.

Alex isn't at all controversial, though his crazed worshipers make it an issue.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Alex isn't at all controversial, though his crazed worshipers make it an issue.

good one...

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by temper11

good one...

KC fans know what controversial looks like, Cassel and Pioli almost tore this fanbase a part which was the catalyst of Save Our Chiefs now that is controversial. Posters disagree if Alex "the man" or not. He is no means controversial unless you want it to make it out that way.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

KC fans know what controversial looks like, Cassel and Pioli almost tore this fanbase a part which was the catalyst of Save Our Chiefs now that is controversial. Posters disagree if Alex "the man" or not. He is no means controversial unless you want it to make it out that way.

I do not. Some people like him and defend his play against those who do not and criticize his play. Too often these groups get labeled as worshipers vs. haters. I don't know why it has to degrade down to something other than just football fans talking about a football player.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Alex isn't at all controversial, though his crazed worshipers make it an issue.

I'd say his crazed worshippers only number a handful, the rest of us simply recognize that he's the best QB we've had since Green and that he simply isn't as terrible as many want to make him out to be.

Would I rather have Rodgers, of course, but that aint happenin... still doesn't mean Smith sucks.